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Ellis Walentine

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Ellis Walentine

Hi folks,

My regular column for Woodworker West is due this week and I'm two weeks behind in posting a survey question. So, I thought I might see if anyone can suggest a topic we can discuss in the next couple days.

Just to let you know what's been on my mind lately, I've been thinking about the role of woodworking in our lives: hobby? sense of accomplishment? DIY projects? livelihood/income production? other? What's the payoff?

Then there's the type of woodworking we do: Furniture? Treen? Carpentry/home improvements? Musical instruments? Hand-tool/purism vs git-r-done? Loose/fussy?

These are just starters. Anything else is welcome.

Ellis

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John Foster

Broad based questions,

Do you ever use your skills for community betterment?

What is you favorite aroma Cedar, oak, walnut etc.?

Do you buy plans, make your own plans, design on the fly?

Is woodworking a solitary pursuit or a social pursuit for you?

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John Foster

how does your wood inventory match up with your reasonably expected lifespan?

When you are told something is impossible, impractical, uneconomical are you deterred or do you take it as a challenge?

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When making a project...

Jim Matthews

...do you ever buy something to copy, first?

Which rooms hold something you made?

What items have you made as gifts?

Which of the things you made went along after "downsizing"?

What have you made that is an embarrassment, that someone else loved?

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John K Jordan

How has your woodworking/turning/time in the shop/acquiring tools and supplies/life changed with the pandemic?

JKJ

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Alan Young

My long winded answer

Alan Young

I had an interesting conversation with a co-worker on the day job yesterday. Peripheral discussions were about "skills" in various marketplaces. Co-worker has vast computer skills/code writing and chip design analysis and broad knowledge of many other topics- he's always offering up ideas on fascinating topics-from bitcoin mining to next generation chip design fab facilities. He also comprehends "my world" of designing and machining mechanical devices etc. I started talking about the "modern woodworker." As a kid it seemed standard practice for a homeowner to have basic skills in utilizing a skill saw, hand drills and other tools for basic repair and maintenance around the home. These skills were deemed a normal part of life. Somewhere in the course of time these skills (might add various electrical and plumbing tasks to this discussion) became associated with your basic handyman-but not as a means to a "career." A generation of HS grads making a living with their hands on their own or in a factory morphed into a generation where a college degree was assumed to be the minimum requirement for a productive life. Here in the Detroit area several generations of "30 years and out" made a very good living going straight from HS to the auto factories. Now I see a new generation of "educated" individuals that seem to make a good living in all sorts of areas-finance, software development, even doctor and lawyering-but they are missing the joy/thrill/satisfaction that comes from doing something with your hands. I think it's great to watch a new generation-but it's coming at a cost- With the dominance of you-tube and social media there is an immediate and endless supply of tutorials on how to accomplish any task we can imagine- The problem as has been mentioned on this forum before-is the content driven videos miss out on many details that will truly educate a novice. These novices have enough $ to buy great tools but suddenly become teachers when they really are executing a variety of bad techniques. I'm not sure where that little ramble fits into your question-but it's something I've been observing.

Now from my last few months experience- I've spent No time in my shop making furniture- rather I've been trying to keep up with my 76 year old friend John-

whom we hired to do the bulk of the restoration work on our Carriage house. Now that the foundational and structural work is finished and the building has a coat of paint- It is difficult to see much of the great work he did. Working with John has truly expanded my concept of "elegance" as I watched him develop solutions to fixing this 140 year old structure.

A couple of examples that I loved watching were the way he took this rotting/ woodchuck eaten door

cleaned it up and "extended it"

Then remounted it in a new frame in a different location:





He did something similar with an old door from the property that he re-purposed for the add on shed.



Another sweet little detail is the way he cut out a rafter in the stairway he built on the inside of the building. Knowing that I was 6'3" and my sons are both over 6 feet- He realized a bit more head room would be an advantage-Notice the lovely little scalloped arch he cut into the rafter located over the bottom of the stairs;




So back to your questions:

Just to let you know what's been on my mind lately, I've been thinking about the role of woodworking in our lives: hobby? sense of accomplishment? DIY projects? livelihood/income production? other? What's the payoff?Then there's the type of woodworking we do: Furniture? Treen? Carpentry/home improvements? Musical instruments? Hand-tool/purism vs git-r-done? Loose/fussy?

I certainly can see this restoration project contributing to everything in your questions-This experience of watching/working with my friend has given me a broader "pallet of appreciation" for many skills and techniques.

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Bill Tindall, E.Tn.

How to get young people interested in the hobby of woodworking.

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David Weaver

* Percentage of time building as productivity (to get the finished item) vs. experimentation or design betas.

* background noise/distractions in the shop (TV, Radio/audio streaming, none)

* % of time each year that weather makes your shop unusable

(this last one sounds kind of stupid, but I knew folks growing up who had normite shops in a pole building - very practical in spring, fall and summer. Their shops hibernated in the winter - the literally did no woodworking at all for 3 or 4 months of the year).

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Mark Mandell - Gone Round In New Jersey

Is your accent on craftsmanship or creativity? If both, in what purportion?

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Jack Dover

... also

- how much do you procrastinate on average?

- how many shop hours do you get a week?

- how long are your projects on average?

- what else do you do in your shop besides woodworking?

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John Foster

You and your significant other ever very get "frisky" in the shop? :)

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Pat Evans

What impact has WoodCentral had on your woodworking? How much time do you spend asking or answering questions?

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Do you ever buy

Joe shelton

...something as a template? My interpretation of your points.

Well, I'm seriously considering buying a kit to build a Windsor chair, so I think that question is interesting as a point of departure.

Slightly along that line, I've heard Curtis Buchanan say that, if he could not build chairs with the tools he now uses for chairs, he'd find something else to use those tools on.

All the small amount I know of woodworking is aimed at a product. For me, one of the products is getting to know the tool and its feel in the wood.

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Buck Nall

Well besides, drill press, ban saw & dovetail jig with 'bits' for it, 1/2'' router

and a bucket of 'bits' for it!

What other little jims do/should we/U have to make your

shop projects worry/wearisome, oh let me guess, ?Forstener? bits, large & teeny!

Not to mention brushes for applying trim & BS when ya got visitors.

Aint gonna git into Dust & chips, aint nuff room/time.

C ya.

WHO yelled saw hoss'es??????

I'm going to tha shop this KEYBOARD is bothersome.

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