Put up 8 celing panels today

Feeling my age

John lucas

I put two more panels up this morning my shoulders are so sore from pushing that drill over head my back is hurting from moving the ladder my feet are worn kut from standing on the ladder i look like Tim Conway doing his old man sketch when i walk across rhe room oh well a short power nap should take care of the problem

On the plus side it sure has been nice being able to use all those outlets Thanks Les

Re: Feeling my age

Barry Irby

I too am feeling my age. Bought a house to flip. Knew the roof had problems, so I fixed the observatory. Not a really big job, but very tedious. You have to watch where you put your feet, every time. Then, I discovered the floor was rotted out. they had apparently let the water heated leak for a LONG time. Had to replace thirteen floor joist and 40 feet of main beam. In a space about 18" High and sopping wet. Got one of the pieces in there facing the wrong way and had to turn it around. Ever try to "helicopter" a 16' treated 2 X 8 in a space 18" high? It was a bear installing the vapor barrier.

I gave up on the crawl space for a while and removed and installed four new door today. It was nice being able to work standing up.

I feel your pain on the out of square stuff. Forty years ago somebody sold me a lot with a foundation on it. Pulled the diagonals on the foundation and it was a foot out of square. We fudged everything on that house. Did not use any floor covering with pattern in it. Custom miter on the counter top. Sold it and never heard another word about it.

Things I did not know could ache are aching. Like you, I do just enough of one thing to get good and sore and then move on to the next thing.

Re: Feeling my age

John lucas

Barry you made me laugh talking about flipping the 2 x 8 I had a bad day had a fever for some reason and finally had to just quit for the day feel great now did manage to get a few more installed taking the day off tomorrow to hang out with some turning buddies

Re: Feeling my age

Joanne in Point Pleasant

John, Sorry for your aches and pains. When I was insulating and finishing my shop, I used luan sheets for the ceiling. I did the insulating mostly by myself, put up the beadboard walls myself, but knew there was no way I could do the ceiling myself. I had a Ceiling Party. Invited my friends, borrowed a scaffold and built some T's to hold up the sheets. Got most of it done in a day. I was able to do the smaller pieces at the edges myself, but that was ache-producing, too. "I-be-broken" or Aleve is your friend.

Re: Feeling my age

john lucas

I'm putting up 5/8" OSB so it's pretty heavy. Fortunately I devised a ramp to slide the wood off the trailer and up to the panel lift. So I don't really have to do much lifting at all. most of the hassle has been sawing and screwing. My antique circular saw is really heavy and I'm using screw for the ceiling and I have to push fairly hard to keep the phillips head engaged to sink the screws.

Re: Feeling my age

Barry Irby

Those blunt screws really tick me off. I somehow thought you were putting up a metal ceiling. So I was thinking that penetrating metal is going to be a tough job even for self drilling screws, but OSB seems to be just hard enough to make life miserable with deck screws. I have stabbed my fingers many times when the screw flips under the pressure. Its the source of a few bad words.

I am getting to the point I want to write to the various companies and tell them what I think. Pardon the pun, but there is no point in using dull deck screws. The dullness never pays off.

Don't get me started on polyethylene. Home depot stocks 10' and 20'. Who thought of that? Terrible sizes for vapor barriers. And its folded inward on itself over and over. very difficult to unfold under a house. I'd like to find the guy that made that decision and pimp slap him a few times.

Its becoming obvious that the people that design the products don't use them and don't even know or care what we do with them.

For your problem...I have the little 12 volt Bosch drill and matching impact driver. Very light for over head use. For dull screws its worth it to pre-drill the start of the hole.

Re: Feeling my age

john lucas

Barry I ruled out the metal ceiling when I priced it. About double or more what the OSB is. My local hardware doesn't have a big selection of screws. Good prices, often beating Lowes but you have limited brands of just about everything.

I do have a light weight impact screw driver and have thought about predrilling the holes but then I have to keep 2 tools handy and I've dropped the driver a few times. I would have dropped the drill numerous times trying to deal with all those tools. I don't have one of those cool waist drill holders.

Re: Feeling my age

Barry Irby

This might be a case where one of those flip bit type driver things might work well. There is one with a hex shaft and the business end has a reversible tip. Screw driver one one end and drill on the other. I've worn out several of them. Makita made them for a while and I just saw one (Identical) by Ryobi. Obviously made by somebody else and branded.

I thoroughly understand about juggling two tools. One of those holsters might be nice, but I don't even like wearing a nail apron.

I have tried starting those dull screws with a hammer. Not going to work well over head. Your OSB will be too bouncy. Those screws were so dull you really had to hit them.

Phillips screws

John K Jordan

>The phillips head is also very shallow so while pushing on the screw

>to get it to start it's very easy to flip the drill out of the head. Quite

>frustrating but I guess I'll get through it.

Yikes, I quit using Phillips head screws years ago. Torx/star head only here - not much force needed to hold while driving, the bit holds the screw well enough so I can drive one-handed in a pinch, impact driver sinks effortlessly. I usually buy them by the 25 lb box.

I did get a 5 lb box recently with less sharp points which was irritating. I would just smack one with a hammer to get enough bite to drive. Sometimes I would smack two or three before trading the hammer for the driver. My impact driver does have a belt clip - I bet you could add one to your driver.

My shoulders and neck still hurt from the MEMORY of putting up the ceiling in my own shop - 1/2" plywood over the 24'x62' ceiling! And legs too - up the ladder, down the ladder, up the ladder... It was a great workout with the vent baffles, wiring, dust collector, HVAC, ceiling, lights...

JKJ

Re: Put up 8 celing panels today

Mike Brazeau

I doubt I could even find wood screws with a Phillips head in Ontario. Only Robertsons, the true and original square drive. Recently working on a deck replacement and using Camo hidden fastener system which uses a small head Torx/Star screw. Agree with John K., they are absolutely the best. They package two drives with each pack of 700 screws and after about 800 screws the first drive I am using will finish the deck with little wear and tear. Mind you I am securing red cedar which is pretty soft. Feel for you John. I have had a busy summer on various projects and they feel great while doing it, but after sitting down for a cool one at the end of the day, the old body seizes up. Thank God for Ibuprofen and also Voltaren gel., the NASID that works transdermally.