Another Dragonfly piece

Re: Another Dragonfly piece

Molly Winton

>Here's a little better perspective. I noticed the first photo distorted the piece a bit. Dang I wish I was better at photography!!

Re: Another Dragonfly piece

Mike Schwing from Md.

>Molly this is awesome. You have moved up a notch with this one, and you were already high on the list! I don't know what it looked like at first, but the finished product is superb. I love the coloring and the style, and I can't imagine how long it took to create all of that detail. Super work!

Re: Another Dragonfly piece

john Lucas

>Molly

I love it. I like the color of the background. You could have fun with that, morning sky, evening sky. I like the coloring on the dragon flies. I'm partial to dragon flies. I had one land on my handlebars when I was riding my bike. We rode together for about a mile before it flew off. What a great memory. John

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Mike Rubes, Apex, NC

>Hi Molly,

That's really great! I love the coloring of the dragonflies, really neat stuff!

Thanks for the pics,

Mike

Critique on collar please

Molly Winton

>Thanks for your comments guys. I do have a request for a critique though. When posted on WoW, a few folks thought the collar sits too high and detracts from the overall piece. If you would comment on this I would appreciate it.

Re: Critique on collar please

Wally Dickerman at Green Valley, Az.

>Okay Molly....You've done a wonderful job of texturing and the form is good, but I feel that the collar is sort of a lump and detracts from your otherwise great piece.

Oh, and get Jamie to help with your camera work.

Uhhh...Still friends?

Wally

Re: Critique on collar please

Bob Elliott

>The overall diameter of the collar looks a little large.

Maybe if it were a concave shape instead of convex.

what he said

Mike Schwing from Md.

>But in my own words.

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Jim Shaver - Oakville, Ontario

>Hi Molly,

What a wonderful piece. You have a vision that results in some very beautiful and inspiring work. I am always impressed by the methods people find to creativley display their own visions, you have a unique talent. Thank You for showing us your work.

take care,

Jim

Re: Critique on collar please

Molly Winton

>Good heavens, yes we're still friends. Isn't that what friends are for? I'm struggling with this collar. Can you give me your thoughts on what might be better? Should it not be as high? I can't make it narrower, due to the size of the form opening. Should I make it flatter with a slight concavity, as suggested? I think I'll try a couple other styles and see what I like. I don't want it to detract from the main form, but it to have a elegant, finished look. Thanks Wally (and Mike, in your own words!).

Re: Critique on collar please

Brad Vietje

>Hi Molly, great work !

I agree -- I like the HF a lot, Molly, but the collar does detract somewhat. My very first impression about the collar was that it seemed pretty large, and that a sharp step and a concave curve might compliment your excellent work better.

The collar shape and style will help create a desired look; either fun, light and whimsical, or more formal. I'd like to see a few different collar shapes on this to compare.

Safe spinning,

Brad Vietje

Thetford, VT

Re: Critique on collar please

john Lucas

>Molly I agree that it looks lumpy on top. Would it be possible to make a top that continues the form. Perhaps you could put a small decorative V between the top and the rest of the form and then decorate the lid portion above the V notch so it looks like a purposeful change in design. Then you could leave a small hole in the tip to appear that it was hollowed through that hole. John

Re: Critique on collar please

Wally Dickerman at Green Valley, Az.

>Perhaps a collar a little like this one....Madrone and Bolivian Rosewood.

Wally

Re: Critique on collar please

Molly Winton

>Thanks so much guys. You've all given me some very good things to think about. I'll revisit the collar and see what I come up with.

Re: Critique on collar please

Russ Fairfield

>If in doubt, remove it. This piece can survive perfectly well without the collar.

Just another opinion from someone who thinks that most collars detract, rather than add.

Re: Critique on collar please

ArtLiestman

>My take on it, Molly, is that it's very difficult to get a nice looking collar when the sides meet the entry hole at such a steep angle. Try some drawings - maybe you can come up with a good solution, but I haven't been able to do it. (Not that I've tried that much.) Wally's example and other nice collared pieces that I've seen approach the horizontal as they approach the entry hole. I don't think you want them to be exactly horizontal (in general), but maybe up to 10 or so degrees from horizontal.

molly--played with collar

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>played with the collar - think just reducing the mass a bit and keeping the line would refine it ...

what do you think?

wally's idea 

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Wally Dickerman at Green Valley, Az.

>Okay...now let's see it with no collar at all.

Wally

Explanation/Questions?

Jennifer@Indy.USA

>Art (or anybody),

I'm not quite clear on what exactly you mean here? When you say.... "the sides meet the entry hole at such a steep angle" ....are you talking about the outer curve of the collar....or are you referring to the sides of the actual hole going into the vessel? Also when you say... "nice collared pieces that I've seen approach the horizontal as they approach the entry hole"...could you explain this? Are you talking about putting a horizontal flat on the edges of the collar? I struggle with almost every collar I make and would love to understand more what Art is talking about here....as I do admire both his and Wally's collars! I guess you could say I have collar envy :)

Thanks!

Jen

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Russ Fairfield

>I cast ONE vote for the "No Collar" {8>)

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>ok ... ii promise ii'll stop now!!!

Re: wally's idea 5

Wally Dickerman at Green Valley, Az.

>Okay....this one is my choice.

Wally