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Steven Antonucci

Tree ID help

steve antonucci

>I was at my SIL's house yesterday. She has a very large tree in her yard. The trunk is 5' in diameter for abot 15-20' before going into 5 or 6 massive leaders (2').

I would describe the tree as being as wide as it is tall, with a very broad canopy. Overall, I'd guess that this tree is 70' tall. The leaves are 5 to a stem and opposite in two pairs and the last at the tip. The leaves appeared long and spearlike, with tiny serrations. The bark is coarse and has a criss cross pattern.

In doing my best research, I narrowed it down to the ash family ( I think), but most of the sites detail ashes as having more than 5 leaves per stem. The tree is very old, and the bottom is beginning to rot. When it falls (not any time soon), I expect to have a lot of cutting to do.

Steve

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Ryan McMullen

>hmm, any chance you can get some photo's of the leaves? That would be the best bet to getting some help on the identification of the tree. Also, do you know what kind of seed the tree produces, that may help with the identification.

You may want to check out this site if you haven't already.


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Mike-in-Michigan(Richland, that is)

>Check out this link...


Dendrology @ Virginia Tech

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Brad Vietje

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Brad Vietje

>Steve,

I love these tree mysteries, but a few more details would help a LOT.

A photo of the bark, leaves, buds, or flowers would be real helpful.

Where the tree grows is also real important -- if nothing else, we could eliminate a lot of possibilities that don't (usually) grow in your area.

As people get into collecting local woods to turn, a few tree identification books will go a long way to help you enjoy the woodturning addiction even more. There are also regional books on winter tree identification, that use details of the buds, twigs, nuts/fruit, and bark, but don't assume a leaf or flower is available for comparison -- these are very helpful. I've learned a lot about the woods that grow in New England since I got serious about turning.

If I could just mount a bird on the lathe, I'd finally learn to identify all those songbirds I haven't learned yet ...

Safe Spinning,

Brad Vietje

Thetford, VT (where a wild turkey was on the lawn a few minutes ago ...)

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Pascal Oudet

>Steve, the description of the leaves matches the ash. I wonder about the bark. could be also one kind of locust. the link by Mike to Virginia Tech is a very good one, you should be able to find your tree very quickly. good luck !

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Don Evans

>Your leaf description fits a Maple perfectly. Now question is, which Maple (if that is what it is).

Don

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Mark Mandell - Gone Round In Jersey

>Steve,

From what you've described, it sounds like a box alder in the maple family.

Let us know what it turns out to actually be.

Mark

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Steven Antonucci

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steve antonucci

>Thanks for all of the insight. while looking at the bark, I grabbed a knot that was attached. It pulled right off, so I took a picture to see if it helps anyone.

It's small burl that looks like something in the maple family, but leaves are still decidedly "ash-like". The whole knot is the size of a large walnut.

S


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Mark Mandell - Gone Round In Jersey

>look like this?

If so, you have boxelder.


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Steven Antonucci

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steve antonucci

>longer and slender. But the leaves weren't fully formed yet either.

I haven't ruled boxelder out, but I didn't think they got this big.

Would explain the "ash-leaf maple" designation though?

S

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Larry

>Do box elders really get 5 feet in diameter and 70 feet tall? My "Field Book of American Trees & Shrubs" (Mathews) says it's "a small-sized tree 30-50 feet high, with a trunk diameter of 1-2 feet in diameter."

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Jim Pugh

>Some older specimens can be huge. Had one in my side yard (Ohio) that was at least 3 feet across.

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Brad Vietje

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Brad Vietje

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Brad Vietje

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Brad Vietje

>Boxelders can get that big, or at least can reach 5 - 6 feet in diameter, but 70 feet tall would be rare indeed, and a straight trunk for 15 - 20 feet would be pretty odd, too.

Safe Spinning,

Brad Vietje

Thetford, VT

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