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Favorite shooting plane?

Dave Thompson

>What do you use for your favorite shooting plane? #5, #6, #9, T5, 51/52, disk sander?

I've been using a LN#62 [that's a BU jack, Derek ;-) ]. I didn't buy it for this purpose, but I usually go for the low angle on end grain. It feels to me like it has less resistance than a standard angle jack.

Then I thought, why would they make those #9 and T5's, and why aren't they low angle planes? Trying to answer the question for myself (though never used the above planes), I'm guessing a #9 has good registration with it's large side, and the pictures I've seen of a T5 make it look like a pretty hefty plane which I would think the extra mass/momentum would help cutting the end grain. Not sure though if or how much either theory holds water.

Putting a square to some older planes I have, tells me that using just a standard jack for shooting may not have necessarily been in the design, thus justifying buying a specialty shooting plane, back in the day. Else one might be lucky, or maybe I'm just unlucky. My Stanley's and derivatives in this general size are slightly off square, though the two Sargent VBM's I have are dead on.

Sargent 414 (#5) in 1911 list for $2.70. Stanley #9 in 1923 list for $10.10. Stick a hotdog on the side of a Sargent and someone back then might be in business ;-)

Thanks. I'm looking forward to hearing your preferences and theories.

Dave

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I'm Dave Too

>LV BU jack. hefty enough. easy to grip. Used it a few hours ago on my shooting board, AAMOF.

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paul womack

>, and the pictures I've seen of a T5 make it look like a pretty hefty plane

Nope. lighter (from memory) than a #05. But it does have a side handle, making for an easier grip than most Baileys.

BugBear

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Re: recent thread  *LINK*

paul womack

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Woodcentral, Jan 2006

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Re: recent thread

Dave Thompson

>Egads, I need to get over here more often. Thanks Paul. I didn't mean to rehash this well covered recent topic.

Dave

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John Edwards

>This is my favorite shooting plane.


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Dick Schafer

>Yea sure, rub it in. That's a beauty.

My favorite is the LN BU Jack.

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Dean Lapinel

>I've been using the LN#62 also. Perfect for me.

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body squarness is unimportant

bill tindall

>There is a lever thingy that wiggles the iron and thereby compensates for lack of body squarness, no matter the plane orientation. Same procedure as for normal planing, just referencing to the plane side rather than plane bottom.

I bought the LV jack for shooting and its mass and hand comfort is acceptable. But for small sticks, anything seems to work, even a block plane.

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Steve Kubien

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Steve Kubien

>Hi Dave,

I only just made a crude shooting board. I'm using a no-name #5, with an old Stanley iron and a 2 pc Clifton chipbreaker. It's working fine so far on pine and red oak. As many people around here are fond of saying, "Why don't you try it and see how it works?"

Take care,

Steve Kubien

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LN 62

Dan Clermont in Burnaby

>I also like the heft of my LN 5.5 for denser, thicker woods.

In a perfect world I would have a true shooting plane but cause I don't use my LN 62 that often I find it is best suited and setup for the shooting board

Dan Clermont

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William Duffield, on the Cohansey

>I think unimportant is overstating your case. If body squareness were unimportant, then I may as well shoot with a paring chisel :^). If my plane body is square and I know it, then I can much more easily determine whether the shot edge is also square, since I can first feel the blade exposure on both sides with my fingertips and can examine the consistency of the thickness of the shaving it produces, instead of picking the stock up off the shooting board, measuring the angle with a square and guessing how much to adjust the lateral to get it right. In this case, I think it's better to build your square into your plane.

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Re: unless... 

paul womack

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foul !!!

ydb1md

>That was a gloat with no warning!

Now I'll be thinking of reasons that I need a no9 all afternoon.

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dave caudill

>You know in a perfect world I guess I would get myself a LN #9 and shoot with it but my world is not perfect so I pick up whatever is close. Obviously it depends on what I'm doing and the size of the stock, etc. Often I pick up ny LN low angle block plane and it works just fine other times its an old #5 or a #3. Just like everything else in the world companies are trying to sell you a different product for each operation we perform. Stanley was no different and thats why they created the #9 as opposed to suggesting you use a #5 or another one of their planes. Don't get me wron gI think the #9 is probably superior in some ways but I have been getting good results for some time with a number of planes so its unlikely I'll be in the market for a #9 any time soon. Although I sure do have a jones on for one of those old English miter planes.

Dave

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ThomD

>I use the LN bevel up jack plane for end grain, and I have a wooden plane I use for stuff like guitars that can benefit from shooting the side grain.

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What an ugly plane!

Frank D. in Montreal

>Hi Jonothan,

I was just wondering what kind of plane could possibly look so bad. Who made that?

Thanks,

Frank

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This works really well *LINK*

HC Sakman @ Victoria, BC

>...up to 6" wide stock.

Chico...


Big Shooter

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#21

a novel solution!

bill tindall

>How do you come up with all these clever ideas?

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Steve Kubien

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Steve Kubien

>Hey Chico,

Roughly how thick a shaving can this thing take? I mean, I think I understand that if a board is 2" over length, a saw may be a more efficient method, but... I've never seen one of these things work before and have been curious about them.

Thanks,

Steve Kubien

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David Barnett

Not so terribly novel, maybe, but clever, yes.

David Barnett

>It appears in "Making Woodworking Aids and Devices" by Robert Wearing, 1985, and I'd assume in much earlier sources, as well, having seen one that'd been refitted with wear strips from the 1930s, I was told.

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Lion Cutters and such...

Thomas Skaggs, Foothills of Mount Level

>Any framer will swear by them. I wish I had a vintage Lion with a good blade. I have seen them shave a pretty fine cut. Simple, beautiful and accurate machines. With proper support I doubt length of stock is an issue.

Tommy

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Darrell in Oakville

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Darrell in Oakville

>Chico,

I've always wanted one of those cute little Lion trimmers. A bit limited in stock size it can handle. Mine will take a 15 inch wide board at 4/4, somewhat less as the stock gets thicker. Here's what it looked like whan I first acquired it... 'tis a bit cleaner now.

Darrell

Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User


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