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Todd Stock
>Here's the frog/body mating surface (bottom of frog).
This LN#3 Has to go back
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#52Re: LN planes-inferior to old stanley?
Todd Stock
>Let's see...for starters, take a gander at the frog ramp...which plane is more likely to experience stress cracks? Which blade is better supported by the frog and body casting? These are pretty subtle improvements, but they somehow manage to manifest themselves in overall performance.
(You might want to pull the frog on a 604 to see what I'm talking about...)
Re: This LN#3 Has to go back
#53So...How About Them Cowboys?
Todd Stock
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#54Re: Finally got through to ol' Todd. :-)
Todd Hughes
>I really have to admit to remembering the LN planes I've examined as actually being a bit better finished then the one in your photos...When you said it is a "First 100" was it some sort of pre production run, and if so do you think that explains it and were later ones better done?.....Todd
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#55what's that saying about the bedrock?
john jesseph
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#56confused again...
john jesseph
>I see... I was thinking about the finish of the machining, not the paint job- my bad!!! Looks like he uses his planes for woodworking!!!
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#57You talking to me?
Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(
>As far as making improvements than YES thay have.
Did you not see this statement in my last past?
Sure, all this translates into better performance, but as I asked "Dollar for Dollar.................. $500 for a LN #8 vs a $100 vintage #8 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm that a $400 difference, which is alot of green, which for $400 I could buy a vintage 3,4, 4.5, 5, 5.25,5.5,6,7,and 8. Now, don't get me wrong I like LN's, but when it comes down to the best value for the dollar Vintage wins hands down, except for the outrageously priced speciality vintage ones. i.e. $1200 for a vintage low angle jack, $1000+ for a #1, etc, etc than LN's easily become the best $to$ value.
Todd O.
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#58Cowboys?
Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(
>Todd,
You trying to stir up trouble? :~)
Todd O.
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#59Re: Finally got through to ol' Todd. :-)
Todd Stock
>The more recent editions have a narrower milling pattern (more passes), with surface roughness down below anything I have to measure it with.
The Type 7s were not the pinnacle of Stanley production technology, but surface roughness is about as good (or bad) as the frog on a #4. Although Stanley did a nice job on the Bedrock cosmetics, the frog on the ones I've seen could use some lapping to get some decent bearing.
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#60Depends on location
Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA
>When I lived in the Midwest 35+ years ago, back when steel was still produced in quantity in this country, I saw just about every color EXCEPT green (and blue) when motoring through Gary, Indiana - pink once, and a lovely lavender another time.
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#61Any known color blindness by chance? ;-)
HC Sakman
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#62Re: You talking to me?
Todd Stock
>I hopr that came with a DeNiro sneer, Todd. One of my all time fav lines from film.
No - the comment was more generally meant for the group. I think we still have four or so folks involved.
Got to looking at my Bedrock handles, and they are all Brazilian. I wonder how many of us are doing the necessary paperwork when our planes cross international lines. Last time I checked, CITES documentation is a minimum of $50. Let's hope cheap rust stays that way.
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#63Re: Finally got through to ol' Todd. :-)
paul womack
>I have to admit that Todd was right - there is a significant difference in the quality of machining between Stanley and LN Bedrock-style planes.
Now you've gone and introduced evidence!
BugBear (grinning widely)
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#64Down in Texas...
Bob Hackett
>When the clouds turn green it means it`s time to find shelter.
Green wall clouds bring hail at best,tornados usually follow.
Mainely,Bob-A former resident of "tornado alley".
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#65Re: Finally got through to ol' Todd. :-)
Todd Stock
>Darn my misspent youth in the lab AND the pool hall...
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#66Re: LN planes-inferior to old stanley?
Todd O. Cronkhite Maine Native in FL. Exile :~(
>Well Todd, yes and no. Kinda' half Dinero, and half in confusion, but certainly with no ill-will inteneded. :~)
Been a heck of a thread tho eh?
Todd O.