PATINA Sale

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Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>I went early and had to leave before noon. Yes...Todd was there with his horse skull hood ornament. Or should I say grill ornament. Saw the truck before I saw Todd but I knew he was there. He brought a friend named Joe that had a Landon (Langdon?) miter trimmer. He had $275 on it so I had to pass. There were three rows of tailgaters. Way more than last year. There must have been 2000 saws for sale. From bad to really nice. I scored a nice Stanley #40 but failed to find the #39 in 1/4" I was hoping to find. Got a nice Stanley #2101 14" swing brace that Todd found first and passed on. It was frozen at the ratchet end and the knob but I've already gotten the ratchet freed up. Found a 3/16" #45 cutter for Dave in Arlington. I talked to Tom law and bought his video. Every time I talk to Tom I come away impressed. There were lots of infills for sale. There were lots of vises for sale. Just no 1/4" #39's. Alas. Wish I didn't have to bolt early. On the way out I spoke with Tom Price for a bit. Didn't recognoze too many others there. I will go again next year.JR

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Sandor in Boyds, MD

>All in all a good day. Some bargains in the tailgate arena, but not many inside. My gloat of the day was two depth stops for stanley 190/78 etc for $3 ea. Some woodie molders (nothing special) for $10 ea. Got a saw filing guide (Dunlop) for $2.

Bought a near mint Record 043 off Tony Murland for his asking prce of $65. Not gloatable, but I've wanted one for a while and this was the nicest he had. He wouldn't bargain at 8:15 in the morning and I was afraid it wouldn't be there at 3.

I bought a rope bed key for $3 just for the fun of it. Anyone need one?

Got some slip stones in very fine (almost ceramic) grit and a handfull of carbide lathe bits.

I was looking for a nice #46, but the going price inside (minus blades) was $150 to $250 and the only one I saw at the tailgate was cruddy and missing depth stops and slitter and screws at $75. I might have to cough up the dough if I want one of these... anyone have one they want to sell? Ping me off line. Thanks.

Jim Leamy's infill and plow planes are masterful works of art. Drool drool...

So many nice tools to look at.... So few dollars to spend.... : )

I have lots of pics to post. Look for them later tonight.

Sandor

Best one that I have been to...

Brent Langdon, Sterling VA

>Wait, I guess it was the only one that I have been to. I had to chuckle at the tailgater selling back issues of Hustler. I figured that that was not the vice I was there to satisfy. Also, I had to love the $5 tool table with the honor payment system.

I did run into a guy with a Woodcentral hat while rummaging through a bin of backsaws. We exchanged names, but my terrible memory lost his name within 30 seconds.

- Brent

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Todd Hughes

>Had a good time at the PATINA sale. My friend Joe and me got thier about sunrise, should have been a little earlier but is a long drive,[Joe left his house at 3:00] Joe had brought a mint in Box 45 and his Langdon mitre trimer plane gizmo to sell.I found a little post drill down at Joannes and took it up for fun.On way up i told him to put $300 on the mitre plane and $200 on the 45 and to be firm.He told me if I want the 45 for a $100 I could have it.Well couldn't turn that down and bought it.He also gave me a little rough 46. When we got there lots of people set up and was a little hard to find stuff at a good price.Was lots of saws there with many over cleaned as well as over priced.Seems like lots of guys were trying to get top,[or higher!] on less then good saws by really cleaning them.Don't think many sold.I thought prices in the parking lot were mostly very high.I did buy alot off a few sellers but most guys stuff was out there price wise, at least as high as ebay. Some of the things I got was a great embossed axe head,Beryrillum axe head,605 bedrock with a hairline crack,66 beader,big wood box of about 20 lb. of plane parts and a lot more off one seller for about $120.Passed on a nice Stanley 45 mostly all there with the cutters for $75. Should have bought it.I also passed on an Emmert vice from another vender that came with a box of extra parts including a couple arms, dogs and etc. at $250. Vice was rough and not working but when I stopped back was sold.I did enjoy seeing a 3 jar Emmert vice priced at $800 like the one I picked up awhile back. I got gabbing so missed getting in early.Did get some deals inside, great little Disston Pattern makers saw,[$40] 3 everlast chisels that have bad edges at $20 ea. Were not many everlasts for sale because I think they were getting sold on ebay. Probably the neatest thing of the day the original rolling stamps used by Disston to mark thier Backsaws,I bought for $50 the pair.Again the prices was all over and paid to look.I saw these pattern makers saw priced as high as $160 and i think mine was the best I saw while the cheapest.Even though I had warned Joe to be wary of believing anything a seller told him he fell for a line and bought a Yankee Brace off a vender that told him it belonged to his grandfather who used it in the 1920's and was a rare variation that only ratcheted in one direction[!]. I showed him how the selector button had been broken out and that it was a Stanley and had to date to after 1946.As always at these tool shows saw LOTS of misrepresented stuff and you really have to be careful

I thought that there was less Good high end stuff, though did see a good many high end stuff that had been worked on.Not many no. 1 planes, two that I looked at were priced at $1200 which is about what they seem to go for on ebay.Don't think they sold at the show.I really got the impression that the good clean stuff was getting ebayed and the rest lesser condition tools was trying to get sold at the show at ebay prices.

One of the neatest things I saw was an old wooden treadle lathe priced at $400 which I thought was a good deal.If I had room ,[and didn't have a bigger one I paid $5 for]I think I would of had to get it. I didn't stay for the auction because I was tired.On the way home gave Joe Hell for selling his mitre plane outfit to cheap[$225]....Had a good time and wish i had bought more stuff but then that is how it always is.....Here is a photo Joe snapped of me making a dump run back to the old tool truck.....Todd

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Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>"3 jar Emmert" - ?

Is that one so ugly you have to drink three jars of moonshine before you can stand to look at it?

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Ernie Miller Topeka

>How can we ping you if you don't leave an email? Ping me at home erniem2u@joimail.com

Pics from PATINA Sale

Sandor in Boyds, MD

>Here are some pics from the PATINA tool sale. I don't know how to post multiple images so here's multiple messages:

This one's of Tom Law and his table. Lots of good useable (and sharp!) saws to choose from....

And he had the best deals on user planes in the house.

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Sandor in Boyds, MD

>Here's one of Tony Murland's table. Good quality english pieces for sale.

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Sandor in Boyds, MD

>Here's a fine example of a Leamy infill. Drool. Drool... He had a table full of his infills and wooden plow planes. These are by far the highest quality toolmanship I have ever seen. There was a Hutchinson Infill at the sale too, and these were even nicer if you can imagine that!

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Sandor in Boyds, MD

>More stuff.....

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Sandor in Boyds, MD

>I figured it out. I have been posting with my email address as snkovacs(at)comcast.net, but now I see that woodcentral does not accept this and that it doesn't get posted.

I thought I was being clever so as not to allow automated email address extraction programs from getting my address, but now I realize it was never being posted in the first place!

Sandor (not trying to remain anonymous, but trying to keep my address from spammers)

Thanks for posting the pics

Jim in Burlington Ontario

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Yes thanks,drooling on my keyboard

Jack from Maine

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John Truxell-Svenson (jvs)

>Well, I'm glad I made it at all, but it was a short morning. Saturdays are my wife's private time, so I took two-year old Sophia, who lasted all of a half hour before wanting to go home. Picked up a 7/16" pigsticker and a 3/4 T&G match plane with nice metal but a chunk missing from the toe of the tongue side. I will sharpen and try it out before going all the way and making a new body, but it might be Bill H's "pickup truck with wheels" as is.

Recognized Todd from pictures, and intended to go back to say hi after a warm-up/juice break, but the boss was through for the day. Didn't see anyone else I recognized, but got to talk with some nice folks. Next year, I'll trade mornings with my wife. On the other hand, next year, the little one will be three, and could probably carry tools....




/jvs

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Paul in NJ

>I arrived at 6:30 AM and it was darn cold! The tailgating was going full swing and I just know I missed some deals. There were more dealers than last year and I noticed there were a lot of saws and vices. The backsaws went before I started. I did manage to find an old sunken medallion 16" Disston miter saw for $6.00 that will make a nice tenon saw. The handle had some chips that I will repair but the blade was nice and smooth with no pits and nice even teeth. A 2" skew rabbet jumped into my bag that I will use for trimming tenon cheeks. Did I mention it was cold outside?

Being too cheap to pay for the 8:00 entry I waited until 9:00. I made a beeline to Tom Law but alas he had sold out of backsaws. Seems like there was a run on backsaws this year. He directed me to another vendor where I met Brent Langdon as he was looking through the backsaw box. I didn't find a saw that struck my fancy but at the end of that row I found the tool that made my day. A small gutter or bowl adze, which I am not sure. It will be great for hollowing chair seats. Later on I found a pristine, unused Norton-Pike hard arkansas stone. I also purchased a nice Rapier plough from Tony Murland at a fair price.

I didn't find any steals inside but I really didn't expect that. Everyone I bought from was willing to bargain a little and I got some fair deals. There were a lot of tools I just don't see for sale at the markets I haunt and they were the ones I searched for. I was a little disappointed that was not a good selection of wood planes. They were either expensive collector planes or were in poor shape. The hollows and rounds I was looking for were few and not in pairs. I also noticed that there were less quality chisels like Swan and Whitherby this year although there were a fair amount of Stanley and Buck. There was a nice set of seven Stanley 750's for $120 but I didn't find the lone 3/8 I was looking for.

All in all it was a good day for me and I am looking forward to the CRAFTS auction next month.

Paul Dzioba

Thanks for sharing!

Frank Mutchler in Colorado Springs

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todd stock

>Sorry to see the 39-1/4 did not come your way, Joe, but sounds like a good day. Would have made it, but committed to help a buddy pick up a load of framing lumber for his deck. Blocked out three hours (7-10) so as to make the show, and at 3 PM we were still going at it.

The next time he says he's gettinga truck, I'll know he means his wife's minivan.

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Skip in Falls Church

>My wife and I were there from 9 to 12 and had a lot of fun. It does seem a bit unfair though, I think she got more stuff than I did. She likes old tools - as decorator items. She wants to put some of my wooden planes up on the wall - but I won't let her. She seems to be eyeing my new purpleheart razee jack from Steve Knight rather closely. Although it might be a bit safer after this sale - she seems to have developed a love of plumb bobs. (She got one - but I noticed that my Ebay watch list has a couple of them on it.) She got a 50 ft wind up tape measure - something that reminded her of her childhood and she got a book on looms.

I also got her a small toy plane of her own. She seems as happy with it and my wooden planes might be safe for another week or two.

I got a couple of smaller wood rasps, some wooden file handles and a round knife. (Doesn't everyone go to a sale like this to buy leather working tools?) I also dropped off a bunch of saws with Tom Law. All in all we really enjoyed it and will probably be back next year.

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Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>Sorry you weren't able to make it Todd. I looked for 750's in the wide sizes but only saw one Winchester in nice shape that was 2" wide. Looked like it might have been a 750 rebadged for Winchester and was possibly Stanley manufacture. Lots of narrow 750's and 1750's though. I always get into sensory overload and miss stuff unfortunately :-0 JR

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Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>Did you get the rasps from the guy selling new old stock? I was amazed in the variety he had for sale. He could have used a comb tho. I got a ignition point file from him. Thin,flexable, and safe edged. I think it will work fine for cleaning up the mouth on a plane when I get around to building an infill. Sorry I didn't get a chance to meet you but I'm glad you made it there.Neat that your wife likes to go to something like this sale with you.JR

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Skip in Falls Church

>Hi Joe,

Yes, I got the rasps from the guy with the missing comb. :) I didn't even know that many different files and rasps existed.

I wasn't sure I was going to make it to the sale for a couple of reasons - but I did. I'll certainly be back next year if humanly possible.

OTOH, having a wife that likes to "assist" in shopping for wood stuff can be a problem. I went to a local wood store to get some rosewood to replace the sole on a #12 veneer scraper and ended up with almost $50 of 1/2" rough cut rosewood because she thought a couple of boards would make a nice box. (She's s boxaholic.)

Not to mention that she judges tools on the basis of how cute they are as opposed to how useful they are. I have, however, trained her to recognize a #1 so that if she ever sees one cheap she will automatically buy it. That was pretty easy as #1s rate high on her "cuteness scale". :)

Skip

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Joe Rogers, Northern Virginia

>Well that in essence doubles up the eyes looking for #1's. Maybe we should cook up some sort of name tags for the next sale so we can identify each other and meet face to face.JR

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Skip in Falls Church

>Hi Joe,

I don't know what I'd actually *do* with a #1, I'd be afraid to actually use it for fear of dropping it. OTOH, it would be nice to say I had one, I guess.

As far as meeting up at the next sale, why not designate an area to meet in and hand out name tags there? :)

Skip

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Ernie Miller Topeka

>I thought that was what you were talking about when you said you bought her a toy plane. They are cute