Way OT: Coffee, black

Re: In Oklahoma....

Dale Lenz-Tahlequah, OK

>coffee is a very popular drink. Maybe, more popular with me than you. Yes, often I take a cup of hot brew out to the shop, but I have a coffee maker in the shop and it's usually on all the time. Got two large container of coffee grounds, caffine for prior to 4 PM and decaf for after 4...enough said. Sorry, I'm not a fan of Charbucks, Folgers is my choice. Call me boring if you wish, just don't forget to call me for dinner : ' >....Dale

Re: Way OT: Coffee, black

Ernie Miller Topeka

>I drink black coffee in the morning. I usualy sit in my trusty rocking chair right next to the short bench and drink a cup trying to decide what I want to work on that morning. I try and keep several differant projects going in differant stages of completion so I can choose what I feel like doing. I also have a coffee press and will make a pot of cold coffee in the evenings some times. It is nice to drink a cold cup of coffee, listen to a book on tape and work on a project. I have dove tails to be choped and nothing is better than a little caffeen to push you along the way.

FiveBucks

Brian, Boothbay Harbor

>is what I call Starbucks. It has always amazed me about the price and all the goings on over a cup of coffee in those stores. Kind of sounds like a old factory with all the sounds coming out of those machines.

Myself, a simple cup of black in the morning and I will drag another to the shop which usually ends up cold because I forget about it.

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Angelo in Cornwall, NY

>Coffee, Black until dinner, with a little milk if I have any after. I do know that in 2001 Syracuse, NY had the country's highest per capita consumption. Must be the cold.

And I refuse to go to a Starbucks.

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Sandor in Boyds, MD

>So I'm 32 and I can still count the number of cups of coffee I've had in my life on one hand. Actually someone who's had a tablesaw accident could still count on one hand.

I just never liked the taste.

I lived in Seattle (Kirkland actually) for 5 years where coffee is king and still couldn't acquire the taste.

But hot cocoa, now that's another story!

Sandor (who even dislikes coffee flavored desserts...)

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Bob Nelson

>Luke: I think it may be an Iowa thing. My daughter and SIL were visiting his daughter (from prior marriage) in Iowa a few months ago. They've since commented that they couldn't get a decent cup of coffee there in either the daughter's home or several restaurants they went to - including a coffee place (not Starbucks, but one of that genre). Barely any color and so weak it was practically tasteless. Bob

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Eric from Little Rhody

>Coffee is pretty darned popular where I live. In my little town, there must be 5 coffee shops (including Starbucks) on the 1/2 mile long main street.

I usually go to Starbucks because I like their coffee, and believe it or not, it's cheaper than anywhere else ($1.90 for a large one). I'm addicted to the stuff, always bring a coffee out to the shop (sure wish the shop had a bathroom :-).

We like coffee so much in RI, coffee milk outsells chocolate milk (seriously).

Re: Gourmet = overcharge

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>You know, I used to think this; but for the past year a now friend and I have met in a coffee shop to develop some software, we sit there for hours working, to say nothing of using their internet connections. So now I think they add a lot cost for sitting and connecting, I've grown to really appreciate these shops. Now, if only they had better food, pastries are great, but I really would prefer a salad or two.

As to your survey, I think the majority of people don't take coffee all that seriously, not enough to grind their own bean just before drinking. They seem to appreciate a good cup when it comes along. I think they're missing a lot, but so are the people who don't buy organically grown produce and meat (only because most of our food supply has been adulterated to the extreme).

Pam

I'm with you

Jerry Nicholson

>I am more than twice your age and I too can count the number of cups of coffee I have consumed on hand. I really dislike the taste of the stuff. For that matter, I don't like tea either. Now Pepsi Cola - that is a different story!

Jerry

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Jeff Tapke

>In rural central Illinois, Wife grinds the beans, and makes fresh coffee. Usually a flavored variety such as hazelnut, french vanilla, etc.

My right hand has a permenant crook in it,for holding the cup.

Re: Gourmet = overcharge

Ernie Miller Topeka

>Lets not start that one Pam. good home grown food is hard to find. I buy my milk from a local it still has about 2-3" of cream on top of the gallon. Can you say fresh butter and whipped cream? Cheap to $2.50 a gal

Re: It was an economy situation

Dale Lenz-Tahlequah, OK

>I went 4 years in the military with out drinking the stuff. Then in college I would always get a sweet roll and hot chocolate in the morning at the student union and visit with me friends. Once day as I was digging deep into me pocket counting my money I discovered I could drink coffee and even get seconds for less than hot chocolate...Money does make major decisions in life...Dale

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Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Home grown is a whole level better than buying, anyhow; but the fact you appreciate a local dairy means a lot. I'd just verify they don't use mbe stuff.

Pam

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Ernie Miller Topeka

>It's a neighbor up the street they have two cows and more milk than they can drink most of the time. She puts up alot of out vegitables for us also They are kind of like the waltons big family five acre garden husband works and she sells baskets and produce at a local farmers market. Fertalizer comes from the cows chickens and goats.

I thought galoots roasted their own! *LINK*

David Barnett

>Just a 2-dollar garage sale hot air popcorn popper and a supplier of green Colombian Supremo beans at less than 2.50 a pound, and you'll never buy from a roaster again. So damned fresh you can hear the gunshots in Medellin.


Caracolillo Coffee Mill - Tampa

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Bob Nelson

>All four years of high school (43-47), I'd get up at 4AM and deliver milk for about 2 1/2 hrs. before going to school. A farmer just outside the small town I lived in had his own cows, own milk processing and bottling plant, and own delivery routes; he'd drive the truck while I jumped in and out getting milk to run up to people's doors. Homogonized milk was starting to come in then, but he refused to have any parts of that; said that was for outfits who were ashamed of how little cream was in their milk. I"m not sure how legal it was, but he'd sell raw (unpasturized) milk to a few oldtimers and that's what he drank himself. Bob

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William R. Duffield, on the Cohansey

>My brain is totally dysfunctional without coffee, or at least the caffeine in it. Even with it, productivity and conentration, and expecially creativity, can be sporadic. I drink it black, all day long.

I like Starbucks, because I know that it is always of consistent, high quality, and it tastes better than any other widely available brand.

For home and shop use, I grind my own beans because that also improves the quality. I take a thermos full out to the shop when I work. Sometimes I get sawdust and shavings in it, which is yucky.

I think anyone who uses Lie-Nielsen or Lee Valley planes should have appreciation for some of Starbuck's values. I eschew their fancy stuff, like the cocobololatefrapes, because I have learned to appreciate the flavor of the coffee itself.

Luckily, when I cannot find a Starbucks, in South Jersey and SE PA, WaWa also makes a consistently good cup of coffee. Like Starbucks, it is never weak, never overcooked, never stale. I've never had to throw one out because it was not drinkable, but prior to Starbucks, there sure were lots of places in the world where none of the readymade coffee, even in the best restaurants, was drinkable.

Blech...

Scott in Douglassville, PA

>Never liked coffee, never will. I'm from the Midwest, every single last person I'm related to or knew there drinks coffee.

I've always chosen to grab my caffeine in nicer, less breath-abusive manners. Be it 200 oz of Mountain Dew a day, or my current six or seven 20-oz bottles of Diet Pepsi...

But it ain't just coffee. Any of those brewed drinks - coffee, tea, whatever. Living in Texas was hell come group meeting time, I tell you what.

Re: I thought galoots roasted their own!

Ernie Miller Topeka

>so how do you roast beans in a popcorn popper? how long how much? You had better not be dragging my infill behind you truck!

Re: I thought galoots roasted their own!

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>How do you do this? Do the beans pop out of the popper like popcorn? Also, do you know whether these guys pay the fair market price to the growers (forget the actual name of this program, but it's an effort to a living wage compensation to the growers)?

Thanks,

Pam

Re: Gourmet = overcharge

Ernie Miller Topeka

>That is the only way to drink it. best flavor I have drank it that way most of my life and have never got sick from it.

Re: Way OT: Coffee, black

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>We have several locally owned great shops in Austin, including a couple who actually serve the coffee in ceramic cups/glasses. I think the use of paper cups is the thing I like least about the chains.

Pam

Re: I thought galoots roasted their own! *LINK*

David Barnett

>Nope, Ernie. In fact, it's an entire industry, in fact, but I like doing it on the cheap. And believe me, once you've tried it... well, it's another slippery slope (for some, at least) all its own.


Home Roasting

Re: I thought galoots roasted their own! *LINK*

David Barnett

>My favorite method for a quick cup or two is (drumroll)... heat gun and a doggie bowl. Quick, precise control, and fun.

The above link (responding to Ernie) will get you started with poppers, I think, but you'll find no end of resources for home roasting on Google, these days.

As to the economic and political issues, I'll leave that for you to explore. Besides, Juan Valdez can always develop a profitable sideline in Colombia.


Heat gun & doggie bowl roasting