Hey Pam...

Happy birthday, Scott and Pam

Ted Owen, Pittsburgh

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TURN BACK! ITS A TRAP!

Greg B�tit, Vergennes, VT

>Happy Birthday to Scott and Pam. You're catching up!

Greg

Re: TURN BACK! ITS A TRAP!

Tom Karrmann

>Just remember that birthdays are good for you. It is a proven fact that the more birthdays you have, the longer you live.

Wishing both of you the best on you birthdays!

Re: Hey Scott...

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Thanks to all, and happy birthday to you, too, Scott. I got some money that will probably go to some more woodworking videos and books; and Jack's taking me to dinner and to see "Cold Mountain" tonight. They may be concurrent events, this local chainlette of movie theaters called the Alamo Drafthouse serves dinner and drink during the movie).

Hope this evening you'll get a treat or two, too.

Pam

Re: Hey Scott...

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>Dinner, drinks and a movie at the same time, cool!

Well, only in Texas I guess (do ya' all shoot at the screen ifin' the movie sucks?).

To tell the truth... I've been smoke free for 22 days, so I'm giving myself a present. Yes, It's a LN 4.5 with the 50 deg frog, improved chip breaker and I'm having it corrugated. Why? Because I deserve it!

Have a great Pam and a good time tonight!

Re: Hey Scott...

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Congratulations, beautiful plane.

I don't know about shooting at the screen, would probably be frowned on. OTOH, maybe not, I've only been here 4+ years, and politically we seem to be very low to the ground, rivaled only by CA. :)

And congratulations on the 3 weeks without the evil weed. I quit for a year, but couldn't make it last forever.

Pam

OT - a year? and THEN?

Tom Sontag - St. Louis

>This is what I can never understand. I would have thought that smokers lose the itch after few months of detox. But having never been a smoker, there is plenty I do not understand about it.

My father in law has quit so many times he decided to quit quiting.

HB Pam and Scott.

Re: Hey Pam...

Ernie Miller Topeka

>Happy birthday to you both and many more. nothing beats cash or a new LN Lucky people.

OT, but you asked for it

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>Tell us about the plane in the back of the picture, Scott -- is this your new infill?

I couldn't tell you Bill

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>I stole the shot right off their web site ;).

Don't quit, on quitting

Jeff Tapke

>The average smoker makes 5 attempts before being successful at quitting. The longer you smoke, the harder it is to quit. A 5 year habit, is easier to break then a 25 year habit. I'm smoke free 17 years, and still get the occasional urge.

ahh, but then I have a shot of Jack and fergit about smoking. :)

Happy Birthday to you and Scott.

Have to Treat yourself

Jim in Burlington Ontario

>Happy birthday and you have to treat yourself.

Re: OT - a year? and THEN?

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>It was weird, apparently travelling and/or classes make me very nervous, even though I love both and always have, probably for the stimulation. I took three trips over a period of about 6 months for the planemaking class with Inomoto-san near Boston, Japanese blacksmithing seminar with Yataiki in SF, and a finishing class at Homestead in Waco.

After the first one, where I bought a single pack and gave away almost all of it, I smoked only 1 pack or less a month. After the second trip, where I bought a pack on a one day road trip to Mendocino/Ft. Bragg because the little gas station required a purchase to use their bathroom and I was so surprised they had my brand (American Spirits unfiltered), I smoked maybe two packs a month. The third was the zinger, smoked a pack a night during the class, haven't been able to smoke less for a year now.

The moral to this story, I don't know, maybe not to test old addictions that you've quit.

Pam

Re: Don't quit, on quitting

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>Really? Thanks, Jeff, and congratulations on your 17 years. I was able to quit alcohol 20 or so years ago, guess I never had an addiction, now have a very occasional glass of wine; but I can't imagine drinking without smoking.

Pam

Re: OT, but you asked for it

William R. Duffield, on the Cohansey

>Bill, look closely. It's solid cherry. Does that tell you anything?

It's a pattern, for a sand mold, that you pour molten bronze or iron into, to get a casting for the #4 1/2.

Re: Don't quit, on quitting

Scott Burr in Ben Lomond CA

>Pam, I've been smoking for the past 24 years. I used the "smoke away" (www.smokeaway.org) no aff. blah blah. It worked great. No "major" cravings but still some come up that are not to hard to handle. You owe it to your self to never give up trying. Besides, I bet Jack will like you around a few years longer.

Re: Don't quit, on quitting

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>OK, will check it out. Jack, otoh, has continued to smoke cigars through both my long term quitting efforts, although he does it outside, and had the decency to hide it the first time I quit.

Pam

Re: OT, but you asked for it

Bill Houghton, Sebastopol, CA

>I kind of thought that it was something like that but, not realizing Scott had picked the shot up from the company website, was wondering if he was making his own castings now -- something that would have thrilled me, since I could then beg him to make something, unless I've managed to get on his Bad List by some of my past comments...

Re: OT - a year? and THEN?

Ed Falis - Ipswich, MA

>Pam,

In the 37 years since I started smoking, I believe I've quit 6 times for an average of 2 years at a time. I'm a year and a half into the current one (7th).

Nicotine is a serious addiction; doesn't take much at all to start up again.

You just have to get into a mindset that you're always quitting - or something.

- Ed

Re: Don't quit, on quitting

Jeff Tapke

>"Really? Thanks, Jeff, and congratulations on your 17 years. I was able to quit alcohol 20 or so years ago, guess I never had an addiction, now have a very occasional glass of wine; but I can't imagine drinking without smoking. "

My wife continued to smoke for a year after I quit. Then she too gave it up. Mainly, I had our then 2 or 3 year old son, trained. She'd ask him what he wanted for Christmas, and He'd say, as only a 2 or 3 year old can, "I want you to quit smoking mommy" She quit in January. My friends said that was playing dirty..heck, I don't care, it worked. :)

Re: Hey Scott...

Don Thompson, Cutler Ridge, South of Miami FL

>HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Hope you enjoy Cold Mountain. I read ten or twenty pages, and then returned it to the bookstore.

Re: pursuit of a dream?

William R. Duffield, on the Cohansey

>You'd drive a hundred miles, one way, down through the heart of Silicon Valley and across the San Andreas Fault, just for a rough casting? That's still a long way from a Bedrock, especially one machined to Lie-Nielsen's standards.

Re: Hey Pam...

Lloyd Robins

>Happy birthday! Thanks for all of your comments and help!

Re: OT - a year? and THEN?

Ernie Miller Topeka

>I imagine it is allot harder than quitting an amphetamine addiction I had for about 7-8 years with it is was just a commitment and a total change of life style (new friends new ways) but with nicotine it is accepted pretty much every where in society I am about 15 years into a new life and believe rust is almost as expensive. Pam give it another try if not today tomorrow.