Anyone tried this LV sharpen sys yet? *LINK*

Re: Anyone tried this LV sharpen sys yet?

Garrett in Victoria BC CA

>Search the archives. There was a long thread a few weeks ago in cluding a professional review - quite positive - by Lynn Mangiamelli.

Cheers, Garrett

Re: Anyone tried this LV sharpen sys yet?

Jim Shaver Oakville, Ont

>Hi,

I have spoken with a friend (who does read this forum) who bought it and loves it. I am about two weeks away from buying it myself at the Hamilton Wood show (save on taxes).

take care,

Jim

Bought it a month ago

Richard Schmidt in Beaufort, NC

>and I have not regretted it. Used scary sharp for years including a lot of free-handed honing but the job it did on my plane blades and chisels was outstanding. Swapping and flipping platters takes but seconds and you wind up with a perfect edge in about 2 minutes. As a result of some recent posts I plan to use it to create back bevels on some of my plane blades. It is also quiet. Like many, I regarded sharpening as a chore - now I just do it and get on with my work. I've since ordered additional platters and grits.

Re: Bought it a month ago

Ed in Arizona

>Thanks Rich,

Rod Lee sent me a link at home last night of another woodworkers site , where the guy does a great review on using it with lots of pictures..what i am sold about this is the ease of use and no water/oil mess to deal with and no need to keep flattening water stones.

Re: Bought it a month ago

Frank Mutchler

>Ed, post the link. I'm interested and bet others are also ;>)!

Re: Bought it a month ago

Ed in Arizona

>I will after i get home Frank (unless ROB LEE beats me too it!!)

Re: Bought it a month ago

Wendell @ Murphy, TX

>I'll guess that it was this page

Woodshop Demos - The Veritas Mk.II Power Sharpening System

Wendell

Re: Bought it a month ago

Russell Seaton

>what i am sold about this is the ease of use and no water/oil mess to deal with and no need to keep flattening water stones.

No water/oil mess? Have you ever used sandpaper to sharpen anything? Have you ever used a belt or disc sander? With the sandpaper platter spinning at 650 rpm, heat is generated. You will dip the tool in water to cool it. Otherwise you cannot hold the tool or you will have to wait several minutes for the tool to cool in the air between platters. So you will have water on the platter spinning at 650 rpm. Like the Makita horizontal waterstone grinder, you will have a line of black grit and water on the wall around the sharpener. The platters also produce a fine black powder from grinding the tool and using p the sandpaper. This is deposited to the left of the platter. A fair amount of dust. Just like with using normal sandpaper sharpening. There is black dust that gets on everything and does not come off easily.

Your assertions of ease of use and no waterstones to flatten are correct. But your statement about no mess is not. I would not want to use this thing on my workbench as someone in a previous post mentioned.

not always correct...

Ed in Arizona

>The mess your talking about would mostly apply to MAJOR grind and that would not always be the case. BTW i already have a belt sander AND 6" grinder, maybe i would use the white wheel grinder to do a major grind before using this platter grinder...well eunff about power tools in this Hand tool forum

Thanks Wendell !

Ed in Arizona

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Re: Particle-o-Matic

Mark Meier (Ann Arbor, MI)

>Ed,

What Russell says is right on. Big mess. At least with water stones the water catches the gunk and you dump it somewhere.

I like this system (I've had it for a few weeks now), but the mess is one drag (and I worry about breathing that stuff -- It's gotta be really bad for you).

It's other weakness is the speed at which the 80 grit disks remove metal. Critical to this system is the idea that the bevel angle needs to be set accuratly so you can just sharpen over and over with a quick hit and then microbevel. It really does work quick at that point. But it takes a long time to bring a bevel at some non-5 degree increment onto one. Burns through sandpaper fast at this stage in my experience.

The other complaint I have is the difficulty in getting the finest grit abrasive on the platter without bubbles. The platters are dead flat. The mylar is flat. But if there are bubbles it isn't flat anymore. I still haven't found a good way yet so I'm popping them with a needle. Painful.

And you can't flatten backs.

The system is good, but there definetly are limits to it.

Mark

Re: Particle-o-Matic

Ed in Arizona

>I hear ya Mark, That was my thinking is this unit would be great for FINAL initial sharpening, I do have the veratis jig for my wheel grinder to create the initial bevel. If you look at that link, he flattens the back of the chisel...but you say no, so thats another question I guess

Re: Particle-o-Matic

Wendell @ Murphy, TX

>I saw a tip once for using a magnet cleaning AlZi belts after use in plane lapping. I wonder if you could rig up a rare earth magnet across the disk that would attract the iron particles as the disk spins by. Sort of a self cleaning mechanism.

Wendell

Ditto ;>)!!

Frank Mutchler

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OT: identify hammer

Jack from Maine

>On the second to the last picture(first view of the plane)what is that hammer on the wall behind the sharpener used for? I've never seen one like that. Also--nice link-- Thanks Wendell---Jack

Re: Not OT - it's a woodworking hand tool *PICS*

William R. Duffield, on the Cohansey

>While not off topic, it's clearly a hijacking.

You mean this one, right?

It's a veneer hammer. Here are some more examples:

It's used with hot hide glue to stick veneer to a substrate, but in a manner more like you would use one of the J-rollers in the last photo. You don't actually hit the veneer with it.

Re: Not OT - it's a woodworking hand tool *PICS*

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

>If one were to make a shop built version, would a scraper blade in wood be acceptable? Or too flexible?

Thanks,

Pam

veneering hammer (?)

Andrew F in Australia

>but it looks as though the blade is a yellow acrylic, looking at the light shining through it onto the pegboard.

If it is, I usually see a different style of blade - usually timber or brass - I suppose that the acrylic would also survive.

Of course, I could also be entirely wrong.

Andrew

Re: Not OT - it's a woodworking hand tool *PICS*

Jack from Maine

>Yes, that one. And Yes also, A highjacking(OT was a shorter way to say it).I'd heard of them but never seen one. My apologies to the original post participants.---Jack

Re: veneering hammer (?)

William R. Duffield, on the Cohansey

>Either the strange combination of lighting has fooled you, or we're also looking at a yellow acrylic jack plane.

Re: Not OT - it's a woodworking hand tool *PICS*

William R. Duffield, on the Cohansey

>I don't think a scraper blade would be appropriate. It's too narrow, too sharp, and also probably too flexible. The "edge" or "face" is rounded and smooth, to apply even, strong pressure. I've heard tell of a wide brick chisel, with a properly tuned "edge" Shanghai'd to make one.

Re: Not OT - it's a woodworking hand tool *PICS*

William R. Duffield, on the Cohansey

>You are NOT allowed to apologize for hijacking a thread! If you do, you will be disqualified from consideration for the Riki Tiki Tavi Award. Since you were not aware of this rule, we will excuse your faux pas this time. You are obviously very adept at this art (or is it a sport?). You had to work hard for that one, and are to be commended.

The difference is that an "OT" post doesn't have anything to do with hand tools, in other words it is "off topic" for the Forum, not the Thread. For example, if we were discussing dovetail saws, and you asked where to find the best deal on a Leigh jig, that would be OT, and would not be eligible for the RTT award, and an apology might be appropriate.

Tongue planted firmly in cheek, of course.

Yep, I'm fooled

Andrew F in Australia

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Thanks.

Pam Niedermayer - Austin, TX

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