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Anyone heard from Bill Tindall?

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Anyone heard from Bill Tindall?

Has anyone heard from Bill? I haven't seen him post in a while...

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I recall a mention of a upcoming European trip in an earlier thread.


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I've been wondering the same.


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Jim DeLaney, Austintown, Ohio

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A couple weeks ago he said he was fed up with Peter's frequent changes to the site, and was leaving.


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I think the couple of days we had to deal with a capcha picking out objects in photos to get in was the last straw. Too bad, he has a lot of great chemistry and other expertise to offer us.

Bill


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Jim DeLaney, Austintown, Ohio

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I agree.  I've learned a lot from Bill over the past years.  Hopefully he'll eventually come back.

On a side note - I don't think Peter has any idea how irritating his frequent changes have been to many of us.  In his quest for "fresh blood" he's alienating some of the folks who've been the basis of the forum over the years.


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Peter Martin

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Actually, I don't. Just bookmark the forums you frequent like we all do with other sites. Or even easier than that, just bookmark

https://www.woodcentral.com/forums/

and right-click to load each forum you want to read in a new window/tab. That URL replaces the old Sightings link /w a list of forums that was used previously. And if that is still bookmarked, the server will redirect to the current URL.

 


 


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That's a good tip, Peter...

I mostly access the forum these days on my Android phone.� I like the page in that link much better than what I was doing previously.� Thanks!


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Bill's sabbatical

If I recall correctly Bill had enough of the changes and said he was not going to be back on WC for 30 days


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I access this site through the tiles that Firefox puts up for my most visited sites. I could bookmark each forum but I choose to access through the tiles. It's my choice.

I have not gotten worked up about the constant rearrangement of the forum menu but I do sense the frustration level rising given that there is no apparent reason or benefit from the changes. If there is some expected benefit that the site will derive from these changes I would love to hear what it is but otherwise it may be time to pick a layout and move on.


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Peter Martin

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>If there is some expected benefit that the site will derive from these changes I would love to hear what it is but otherwise it may be time to pick a layout and move on.

The expected benefit is that they did not work and needed to be fixed. Nothing on the site that works has ever been changed. There would be no point in that.


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Since I have been navigating through the forum pulldowns I am surprised that they did not work. They have been working for me in all of their implementations.


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I would like to thank Peter for all the effort and work he has put in, it is a thankless job. What may work on the forum for you may not work for someone with a different platform. 

regards,

Paul Dzioba


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Amen to that!


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I believe the overall efficacy of the forum has been much improved by Peter’s work.

paul in Hunt Valley, MD


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And another Amen, so true in the computer world!


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Ellis Walentine

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As I told Bill when he said he was leaving us for a month, Peter's contributions here were overdue and necessary. Recall a year ago when we were still running my old unsupported forum software and hitting all sorts of problems. Peter bailed us out but he didn't stop there. He's now reorganized the entire site, brought back ancient archives, added new features that you are welcome to use or lose, and reengineered our pages to make them friendly to every platform and device type. He's still at it, devising creative solutions to the neverending challenges of this sort of enterprise, sometimes breaking things to find a better way. I support his efforts and have resisted temptations to make things different, not better. I wrote the first several thousand pages of this site, with the barest minimum of programming skills. Peter is an expert. We should all be willing to be patient with his ongoing efforts. The continued evolution of this site is worth our support.

Ellis


 


 


 


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Alan Young

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Ellis- I agree with everything you've said----I've been away from WC for quite a bit of the last year-but not because of the changes implemented by Peter-I've just transitioned into pretty much full time woodworking which doesn't leave as much time for internet. I don't even take as many pictures of my projects in process as it takes so much time. I have noticed a few of the changes but none have been detrimental to my usage.

So far every hands on usage is improved-up loading pictures for instance- I used to employ the old html code what ever it was to limport pictures from my web page so Idin't have to resize them. But now every picture I have in my files or I want to post from another site can simply be copied and placed into the post. I used to spend time on another Woodworking site that had quite a number of valuable articles and woodworker galleries. That site has made a number of changes all so unintuitive for me that I won't use it again..

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Ellis, Peter and all

There is absolutely no doubt that WoodCentral is a smoother, better running and better looking set of forums since Peter came on board. It is important to look at this big picture. It is also important to understand that changes are likely to continue with fine tuning. So where is the problem?

The problem is that changes take place without any warning. It is not the major changes which are stressful, but the frequent, minor changes, such as to the Index system. This can change day-to-day. I have no idea about the size of WoodCentral’s membership, but imagine it is smaller than many others, being made up of larger “old timers”, like myself. I do know that the average age is around 70. Old farts get used to a system, and work with it reasonably comfortably even if it is clunky. It just becomes the forum’s personality, and is then endearing. When there are constant small changes, supposedly for efficiency, it does not go down well. 

Suggestion: before making further changes to the Index and any other switch or presentation, obtain some feedback to determine who it is likely to be valued, and then warn the members about coming changes. No surprises.

 

Regards from Perth

Derek


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I feel the best way to prevent becoming an old curmudgeon is to deal with changes as they occur.

Keeps the brain nimble.

As for  Peter, an experienced programmer, having to consult  a bunch of senior citizens would be  cruel and unusual punishment.


 


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Peter Martin

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>I feel the best way to prevent becoming an old curmudgeon is to deal with changes as they occur.

I'm 66 and am only here to see if I can find a girlfriend.


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Peter......if a girlfriend would result in slowing you down from the frequent changes you make, I'm getting the impression many here would contribute to the cost of acquiring said girlfriend for you.......


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Peter Martin

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Perhaps that was the agenda all along? Ah, the plot thickens!


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