anybody vaccinated yet?

Re: Mom was in an Iron Lung. What do you think?

Bruce McCrory

There is no excuse to think others will keep me, or you, safe or; that I won't be harmed or, will skate by with a minor sniffle if I catch it. There is no choice in the matter of disease prevention. You do it.

Mom was on her back for a year and a half as a child. She had to learn how to walk again. Post polio syndrome is not a granny tale.

Mom was advised not to have children because she would slip on a fallen pea and break a hip. Her three boys were c-section, mandatory because she had no diaphragm muscles to push natural birth. Every cold was a life-threatening worry for her. I gave her mumps just before my brother was born. She went to the hospital.

Plagues have decimated civilizations for over hundreds of years before so-called herd immunity began to work. World populations have dropped by a third and more. And, people don't want to harm rats and mice living among them.

There is no choice in the matter of disease prevention. No politics, no social demand to ignore prevention. There is no choice to push personal exclusion upon my, or others, children. There is no excuse to endanger other people for my rationalization psychology. Plausibility is not facts, it's fairy tales.

I remember the long lines at what seemed a mile of tables where children especially, were being shot with Salk vaccine. And, later, more shots until the sugar pill fixed immunity permanently. Mom's mobility was already in decline by then, before my brother was born. She could not walk, and then stand the last several years of life

Re: anybody vaccinated yet?

Ron Pemberton

My wife and I have both had the Phizer vaccine, 1st and 2nd. We are both over 75. I consider this is an aid as we both plan on wearing masks and social disting. We plan on living till a tree falls on us.

question

Bill Tindall, E.Tn.

where do you live that you already have the 2nd injection? I have not got the 2nd and I am in the Trial (turned out placebo).

Re: question

Ron Pemberton

We live in Decatur, Texas. We were notified people over 65 were eligible to be vaccinated at our hospital. After the first vaccine the 2nd was saved for us.

Ron P..NO tree falls!

Tom Dunlap

I'm sure that i know an arborist who would come out and do a hazard tree analysis/consultation to eliminate your concern about a tree crushing you. That would be awful.

Re: Ron P..NO tree falls!

Ron Pemberton

That came from a Tex Ritter song that says if a tree don't fall on me I'll live till I die.

Re: Ron P..NO tree falls!

Barry Irby

Back in the days of the colonies ALL of the trees belonged to the crown, but if the wind blew one down you could keep it. That's the origin of the phrase, "I got a windfall".

While I want you to live until you die, I was thinking having a tree fall on me would be a pretty fitting end for a wood worker. Perhaps it would be the tree's way of getting even.

Glad you got the vaccine, wish I could and I will as soon as I can. Good luck and stay healthy.

Small wonder (yes, again!)...

John in NM

That they didn't have the Boston Tree Party instead!

Re: Yes...

Johanna Johanson

Here in Sandoval county, we two old ladies (79 and 86) have not even heard when we might be able to be vaccinated. I hope it is soon because every time I have to go to the grocery store I worry that I might bring it home to Joanne, who is older, has a heart condition, and is diabetic. I wear a mask and wash my hands when I get home, but I still worry.

Room for optimism...

John in NM

I think you have lots of reasons to be optimistic. The way they seem to be going I bet it will be sooner rather than later for older people here.

New Mexico seems pretty organized with distribution, and seems to prefer getting doses to people sooner rather than having a perfectly unimpeachable hierarchy of order.

The pre-registration site you pointed out is a great thing. You'll know as soon as they have a dose for you. A lot of states don't seem to be doing that.

The one thing I found was that notice was short - less than 12 hours for me. It was well worth dropping everything to get in for a shot. I can only hope that can be improved, probably it will.

Re: anybody vaccinated yet?

William Duffield

My son (an EMT in VA) has gotten his first vaccination about a week ago and has been scheduled for the second. We intend to get ours as soon as they are available here. The state of NJ has already figured out where we will get it (a local grocery store with pharmacy and clinic) and which "phase" we are assigned to. We have already registered with the state, and they will notify us when we can get the first vaccination. Curiously, although I am over 70, with medical conditions that would probably make the disease much more serious, the medical conditions have not helped move me up in priority. I am assigned the same phase as my wife who is under 70. There is no need to comment on fairness of allocations or lack thereof; every state is different because they have to make a very difficult decision for themselves, with little help or coordination from the Federal government.

common misinformation

Bill Tindall, E.Tn.

with little help or coordination from the Federal government.

A common but misinformed complaint. You can easily spend an hour on the CDC web site learning about the guidance the States are being provided. There is detailed information to be found there. Then go to your State's Health department web site. Somewhere there will be the plan they submitted to CDC for implementing these recommendations.

If you want to see a model for getting information to citizens and the medical community go to the TN Health Department we site. It is no accident that TN is leading in getting vaccine from its source to arms.

Thankfully the post office is not responsible for the vaccine.

Good You Recovered

Mark Mandell - Gone Round In New Jersey

and look on the bright side . . .

You don't need your bathroom fan for a while longer

Ewwww, that was bad!

Re: Yes...

Jesse Cloud

Hang in there Johanna. John's good news really encouraged me - first person I know who got the vaccine, though everyone I know wants it.

Do be careful at the grocery. I see lots of people not wearing their masks correctly and whenever I get a peek at the behind the scenes I see lots of workers not wearing their masks. I have gone mostly to ordering groceries for curbside pickup.

I also go to our small grocery store, The Merc, more often - just because I can get in and out quickly to reduce exposure time.

Fingers crossed for you and Jo Ann.

for example

Bill Tindall, E.Tn.

responding to vaccine administration situation CDC today changed vaccination priority to anyone over 65.

To build a fire under states tardy in getting the job done CDC is proposing future allocation on doses administered rather than strictly based on population. It's called competition.

Some further good news...

John in NM

The lead time for the second shot appointment is longer, they called last night to set an appointment for tomorrow morning. Last time they were well organized in spite of the rush, now it looks like they have more time to plan. In another month things should be very smooth I think.

Good call on frequenting the smaller grocers, btw. We have been doing that too when possible. Last spring we figured most of the out of towners didn't know where the smaller stores were, so the odds of finding well stocked shelves and uncrowded aisles were better. That turned out to be true when crowds were stripping the Walmart bare of soup and pasta

Update...

John in NM

Second shot this morning.

Nurse told us that people had been reporting that the shot hurt more, or perhaps burned more? (it didn't in my opinion ). People have also been reporting greater incidence of cold/flu symptoms the day after the second shot - her explanation for that makes sense, the booster gives your system another look at the thing it needs to kill and it gets right to doing it. Seems plausible.

Incidentally, I only barely felt the second shot, didn't even notice the first. The only other shots I've had recently were novocaine at the dentist, so I was expecting worse. Light gauge needle in an insensitive shoulder I guess.

Re: Update...

John in NM

Slight symptoms this time. More stiffness at the injection site, slight temperature and fatigue this afternoon but not enough even to cause a headache or other trouble. Mostly seems to have passed now.

On the whole the mild symptoms are reassuring - immune system learning its job.

Re: Now I Know

E Phillip Smith

Got unblinded on Wednesday. I was in placebo group. Got first shot of vaccine today.

Anyone else participating in any of the COVID-19 vaccine trials.

Re: No easy answer...

AZ in Colorado Springs

I'm catching up on reading through the messages. Interesting to read the discussion many weeks later. The younger people are now getting the virus. Partly because many of the older folks (myself included) have been vaccinated. Partly because of events such as spring break. Clearly, though, ideas about who is or isn't vulnerable are not constant.

The idea of comparing a rural area to a city seems a bit of a stretch, as well. In New York City, if everyone on a floor of an apartment building steps out to pick up the morning newspaper at the same time there won't be any social distancing going on.

My son lives at Alamogordo NM and looked up these stats:

Population per square mile, 2010:

New York City: 27,012.5

Otero county, NM: 9.6

Apples to oranges in many respects.

This is an interesting thread.