Want opinions on finishing inside of shop

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Sam Force

Sounds like a great building, will you have plumbing? I would at least put in a toilet-washroom, I have a much smaller shop and wish often I had the basics

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John K Jordan

I decided on 1/2" radiatia pine plywood for my shop walls and ceilings (24x62'). I put it all up with deck screws so I could take panels down easily to modifying wiring, etc. 2x6 stud walls on 16" centers, ceiling truss spacing 24" with blocking between. The plywood is very smooth and takes paint well. I used a panel jack to put up the ceiling panels. Did the construction myself from dirt moving to light switches.

I hope you put a sound insulating closet in the shop for dust collector. Mine is 4'x8' and also houses another noisemaker, a big air compressor.

I didn't put in a bathroom or tiny kitchen but an expansion is planned.

JKJ

I thought I would be reading about a spray booth

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Pat Riley

I agree with John. 4 x 8 plywood screwed in place so changes in the future are quick and easy.

With at least 1/2 inch ply you can also pretty much mount anything anywhere you need. Makes things very convenient. I suppose you could use OSB, but t never looks quite as nice

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Mike in Zuni VA

I do plan on a rest room in the future. It will be when I tackle the upstairs. I hope to have a class room and rest room upstairs. I may put a laundry sink in the shop area downstairs. I know that some people will advise against the bathroom upstairs because of having "to run" upstairs, but I will have the "platform hoist". Did not want to call it an elevator.

Mike in Zuni, VA

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Mike in Zuni VA

I agree with the idea of plywood and putting it up with screws to make changes later easier. Very rarely do you see 6" studs in this area. I like the idea of having a smooth paint finish. My main concern is the weight and trying to handle the sheets by myself. If I do use plywood, I plan on having the top of the outlet boxes set at 48" so all I will have to do is notch the plywood to go around the outlet boxes. I have had a left knee replacement ( did not turn out well) and a right hip replacement and waiting for a right knee replacement. That is why I will be using 1/4" luan for the ceiling. I plan on using a panel jack and a scissors lift for the ceiling. That is the reason I was considering ship lap versus the plywood. I had this building built. My first shop which was 40' X 50' metal building. I did all the work except the concrete work on that one. I just was not physically able to do it this time. I do plan on two sound isolated closets. One for the dust collectors and a separate on for the air compressor.

Mike in Zuni, VA

Re: I thought I would be reading about a spray boo

Mike in Zuni VA

That will probably be under the lean-to

Mike in Zuni, VA

Re: Want opinions on finishing inside of shop

Mike in Zuni VA

As stated above, I have some concerns over the weight of the plywood. I agree the OSB does not look as good as plywood, but it is lighter than plywood. I don't know if holds screws as well plywood. My son has OSB on his shop walls that he painted white. The individual chips telegraphed through the paint. I didn't like the look.

Mike in Zuni, VA

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Pat Evans

I'm old fashioned, but depending on layout, I'd want some wall area covered with pegboard.

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David Yoho

As far as wall covering and weight of sheet goods being a factor, your shiplap idea is good. It will just take longer to install. As far as insulating the ceiling, I'd say do it. You indicated it will be later before the upstairs is conditioned and the insulation will help keep the downstairs cool / warm, as well as provide some sound barrier. I think a wash sink is a must in a workshop. I use mine a lot.

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Paul Blackwell

If you look at Shop Shots #953, you can see what I used. It's called Smartside Panels, basically 3/8 inch OSB with v grooves and pre-primed for painting. I painted mine a warm tan color. It's strong enough to hang things on and is installed with screws for ease of removal if needed. I installed it myself with a little help from a buddy. After eight years, I'm still pleased with it.

Ceiling material

Ellis Walentine

The 1/4" lauan is going to sag on a ceiling, whether you nail it to joists or furring strips. When I rebuilt my shop after it burned down in '99, I sheetrocked the ceiling. It was relatively cheap and I could easily find a contractor to do the work for me.

Ellis

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Ed Wesolek

Hell-o Everyone,

I'm a little late to this conversation. In my barn (60' x 40') i used 1/2 plywood on the walls and OSB on the ceiling, painted white. I then ran an air line made from steel pipe because I had it along with a threader for air through out the shop. I have built my cabinets around the pipe to also include the vacuum system coming up through the floor. I also have radiant floor heating which keeps the barn a a very comfortable temperature during the winter. Here in Mich. i need it. the water is heated by a 50 gallon hot water heater. Keeps my tools from rusting up. Bummer, no air for me.

The barn has insulation in the sides and an a R-50 in the ceiling. I used T-12 for my lights and have started to use some Led lights as well. My spray booth in is the other section of the barn 10' x 10' with an exhaust fan. then the rest of the room is wood storage at 20' x 40'. I also have lots of windows in my barn and enjoy them every time that I am in there. I would have cost me to much to put in a small bath and sink which I could use for sure.

My 2 cents worth.

Ed

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Mike in Zuni VA

I looked at the Shop Shots of your shop. It looks good. If I can find the Smartside Panels locally I will probably go with that. With using the Smartside I will place my receptacles every 4' along the Wall along the joint lines of the Smartside. I will probably still go with the eggshell white for the paint. I have a total of 6 windows and a 15 lite door downstairs. The three largest windows are located on the south wall under the lean-to, so I want as much light and reflectivity as possible. Did a local search for the Smartsiding and the local Home Depot has it for $31.00 sheet. Looks like a cost effective and attractive solution. Thanks

Mike in Zuni, VA

Re: Ceiling material

Mike in Zuni VA

If I go with the sheet rock for the ceiling, considering your experiences with fire, would you go with 2 layers on the ceiling. The Smartsiding that Paul Blackwell recommended for the walls below has a 1 hour fire rating.

Mike in Zuni, VA

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Mike in Zuni VA

Oops, This was suppose to under Paul Blackwell's response.

Mike in Zuni, VA

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Mike in Zuni VA

I definitely want a bathroom in the shop. I have to figure out how to get water to the shop. There is currently and old 1 1/4" galvanized line in the area that went from an old well to the house. I would preferr not use it. The hard part will be the sewage line. Community Electric (our local co op)had problems figuring out how to get power to the shop. They had to stay at least 10' away from any septic system. While dodging the septic system they exceeded the maximum distance they could run an underground service. Their fix was to replace the existing pole in the yard with a 35' pole and move the transformer from across the street to the pole in the yard. They will run a new service line through the side yard to the shop as soon as the electrician gets the meter base and panel box installed. Naturally their route is also my most direct route to my collection tank. So the bathroom is little further down the to do list. I do like the idea of a sink in the shop area.

Mike in Zuni, VA

peg borad

Bill Tindall, E.Tn.

Friend put up 1/4 white pegboard in his new shop. It struck me as a good idea.

I have block walls so shelves are necessary.

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walta

Yes the idea that you can drive a screw any place you want and hit plywood has an appeal but at what cost $1500-3000?

I can spend a lot of time with a stud finder for that kind of money.

After the first few months it will be a rare day when you put a nail in the wall.

Nothing costs less per square foot than drywall and paint.

Walta

Re: peg board - white

Mark Mandell - Gone Round In New Jersey

is nice. That way you can outline all the tools with a sharpie so you don't forget where they go!

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Barry Irby

I daydream about building a bigger shop. Jealous would be a good word.

Might look at Zip Sheeting. I think it's OSB with some sort of weather resistant coating. Then pain it.

I think the shiplap would be good but a lot of work.

Could look at OSB and paint is with Block Fill or some sort of heavy bodied paint. Deck-Over or something similar.

I might consider running some ducting for the DC under the floor and some wiring for floor outlets.

Be sure to leave a space for the "project" whatever it is. I have seen any number of shops full of tools with no space to build anything.

1/2" Underlay Ply

Mark Mandell - Gone Round In New Jersey

is what I used in my new shop.

Now, since we used a pole-barn build, electric was a bit of a pain to run (can't drill holes in those structural poles! ) but had purlines run on 24" OC from the 10' ceiling so full sheets of ply went up quickly with a friend helping. Didn't bother with paint as I ran 2 courses of LED fixtures; very few shadows, plus I hate to paint

panel jack, 2x6 studs

John K Jordan

With the panel jack I had zero problems raising and mounting 4x8 sheets of plywood to the ceiling. The panel jack tilts to make loading a sheet easy then cranks easily to lift. I bought a new one from Northern Tool but I see some used. I could have sold mine three times after I finished but I'm keeping it. One reason is in case I ever need to take down a ceiling panel, even though I put in four 2x3' removable access panels.

BTW, for me the 24" spacing I have between the trusses is too much for even 1/2" plywood ceiling panels. I mounted sheets so each was fastened to three trusses plus the two on the ends. I also put up four pieces of 2x4 blocking between the trusses at the joint between one sheet and the one beside it and put screws in each. If I didn't do that the 1/2" ply would warp or sag enough that both edges didn't line up to suit me. I'm sure it would have been strong enough anyway but I wasn't happy with unsecured edges.

As someone mentioned, the plywood is plenty strong to mount anything anywhere, walls or ceilings. I put shelves and tool racks and things everywhere.

BTW, I built with 6x6 posts in concrete and double and triple 2x10 beams so my 2x6 studs are not load bearing but mostly to give me extra wall thickness for insulation (and make the inside walls flat without having to fit around the posts.)

JKJ

Re: panel jack, 2x6 studs

Mike in Zuni VA

Currently have the HF panel lift. Used in the house and works great. With my hip and both knees I don't do ladders and steps as easily as I used to. That is why I would use the panel lift with a scissor lift. I am a former certified JLG and scissor lift instructor. I do plan on putting tool racks on the walls, but not a big fan of shelves as they are dust collectors unless you use the wire closet shelves.

Mike in Zuni, VA