cyclone installation w/low ceiling help!

Re: cyclone installation w/low ceiling help!

Norman (Ottawa, Ont.)

>Phil,, I can see your concern..

An idea is to place a formed heat shield in the cavity of the joists directly in the area of the motor.. It would be a thin

sheet steel square U-shaped piece ( easy to form) using ducting sheet metal. At least you would have peace of mind that no wood is in the general area of the motoir itself.

Norman

Re: cyclone installation w/low ceiling help!

Jim Shaver Oakville, Ont.

>Hi Phil,

I was thinking....cut a hole through the floor under the kitchen sink and place the motor housing up there.......nah.......might not be a good idea now that I think of it......the dishes in the sink would rattle around eh!

:-)

Basement set up's are tight...any way you can locate it outside or in a garage and pipe in the ducting? I know Garrett did that in his Victoria shop, it works well.

Take care,

Jim

Re: cyclone installation w/low ceiling help!

Phil in NJ

>Jim,

Alas I don't have an attached garage, and in the burbs so a cyclone in the yard might not maintain "curb appeal" :)

-Phil

If your worried about it sparking / fire......

Scott in Eastern Iowa

>.....I'd be thinking about lining the area in sheetrock, or a metal liner to contain it. Go to your local borg for metal roofing panels that are used for roof applications.

I highly doubt it would happen, but.....better safe than sorry.

Scott

Phil-let us know how the Oneida cyclone works!

CHICAGO BOB

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Re: Phil-let us know how the Oneida cyclone works!

Phil in NJ

>The cyclone works well, I've had it for a year, just never had it in the best location. Now I'm trying to finalize things and lay out permanent ductwork...

Thanks for the help everybody!

-Phil

Re: cyclone installation w/low ceiling help!

Angus Barclay, in New Zealand

>Hello Phil,

could you mount the motor upside-down beside the blower or beside the cyclone and drive the blower with a belt?

If you could, this would both reduce the height of the whole set-up and move the motor into a more accesible space for ventilation and maintenance.

regards

Angus Barclay

Re: cyclone installation w/low ceiling help!

Phil in NJ

>I talked to Oneida about that, they said that only their biggest collectors run with a belt.

The motor is face-mounted to the top of the unit. I guess I

could restructure the whole thing, but would probably lose some

efficiency in the process. I'm not sure I actually have the

height even to have a pulley and belt.

Thanks for the suggestion!

-Phil

Re: cyclone installation w/low ceiling help!

Larry in NW Ohio

>Phil I have the same exactsetup as you w/ steps just off to the side. I am in no way concerened, but the doesn`t do anything for you. That motor is a TEFC unit, so there should be no way it ,the motor, can start a fire. One thing I do have is a sprinkler head in my DC room and a water detector. I also put a small squiral cage fan to blow on the motor and another a couple of feet away to help pull the air away from the motor to help keep the motor cool being that it is so enclosed. If you have any questions just ask. I know I don`t have the ideal setup but it`s the best I can do with what I have. Good Luck Larry in NW Ohio

Re: cyclone installation w/low ceiling help!

Paul Dwight

>I wonder if you could pull the blower and motor off the top of the cyclone and remount the whole thing in a more convenient location. The existing set up has a hose from the blower outlet to the filter, right? Remount the blower so its outlet goes directly into the filter and switch the hose so it runs from the cyclone outlet to the blower inlet. If you keep the length of the hose the same, I doubt it would affect the performance of the unit much, at all. I'd be surprised if Oneida doesn't have some experience with this kind of remote blower installation.

On the whole, though, it might be more straightforward to enclose the area in 5/8" drywall and put in a smoke detector.

Hope this helps. -- Paul