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Gary Smyth



The pictured one is made of one piece of wood and likely for the tourist trade. The pictured item has a similar shape similar to a graphical image on the flag of a former country. The country which was a confereration no longer exists on its own but has been incorporated into another. It was however in the 1700�s the most powerful confederation in the land, and was so strong it had a standing army of 100,000. Bad governing, unclear lines of succession, foreign intervention, and political �neutralization� by capturing and selling rivals into slavery, weakened the confederation. Original bloodlines of this group still exist and the population makes up about 15% of the country that absorbed them. They are fiercely loyal to their heritage and the item represented by the image on their flag which they refuse to give up. Their flag representational image is graphically similar to the picture but the original is sacred and not black or dark in color unless it is a reproduction, darkened with blood, for important state ceremonies. Name the country/confederation.

Part two: To my knowledge there are three countries (including the one above) featuring wood on their flag. Trivia part two for today. Name the countries with wood as a feature on their national flag. Do not count laurel wreaths around other graphic elements as part of this answer.

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Gary Smyth

At its height of influence in the 1750's this confederation also had a communications system using drums that could deliver "general" messages up to 200 miles away in a few hours. Seems like every movie of the type talks about communications drums.

First person: "I can't stand it any longer, they're driving me crazy"

Second person: " As long as they're beating I don't worry (beat , beat) it's only when they stop we have to worry! At which time the drums stop.

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Part 2

Alex Y

My initial reaction was to stretch "wood" to include any tree product, including maple leaves. But even omitting them, I found six with trees on the flag (wooden trees to the best of my knowledge ;) ) But did you mean some wooden object other than a tree?

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I'm including the maple leaf so that's

Gary Smyth

one -- or #7 depending on what you have. We'll get it straight at the end. We are talking national flags and not state correct? I looked at 240 flags A to Z, so I must have missed them.

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Re: I'm including the maple leaf so that's

Alex Y

Look more closely at countries whose names begin with

B, B, C, E, F, H, & P

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Part 2  Shout em out and final hint

Gary Smyth

Using your advice I went back and found some of what you suggested. A few have oval "cameos" inserted in the flag. Some have trees (mostly palms) and some include a forested scene. There are more than three. My original selections were Canada (maple leaf), Lebanon (cedar), Hong Kong (orchid tree flower), the answer to part one, and perhaps Norfolk Island, (pine), Alex has others so point them out. I did find two Bs, a C, an E, an additional H (which is interesting because they have practicall none), and a P.

Look to Africa slave departure points and what the picture is of. Combine them.

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Gary Smyth


There may be more changes still. I have to be out of touch for a day so here�s today�s answer. Alex gets a big star for finding twice the number of flags I had that had wood associated with the flag.

Part 1

The item I was looking for was an African style stool. It is graphically displayed on the flag of the Ashanti.

The Golden Stool is sacred to the Ashanti, as it is believed that it contains the 'Sunsum' � spirit or soul of the Ashanti people. Just as man cannot live without a soul, so the Ashanti would cease to exist if the Golden Stool were to be taken from them. The Golden Stool is not just sacred; it is a symbol of nationhood, a symbol that binds or unifies all Ashanti.

The Golden Stool is inlaid with gold, and hung with bells to warn the king of impending danger. It has not been seen by many and only the king and trusted advisers know the hiding place. Pictures are sparse. Replicas of the stool have been produced for the chiefs and at their funerals are ceremonially blackened with animal blood, a symbol of their power for generations.

The Ashanti have always been proud of the uniqueness of their Golden Stool, and it was a symbol of not only their independence, but a common bond between their people. When the King of Gyaaman, Adinkra, made a Golden Stool for himself, the Ashanti leadership was so annoyed that the Ashanti went to war. Adinkra was completely destroyed and he was decapitated. The Asantehene then proceeded to order the melt down of Adinkra's golden stool, and for it to be made into two masks, to represent his "ugly" face. These masks remain hanging on each side of the Ashanti Golden Stool to this day

The Akan people are what is now the Ashanti Region in Ghana. Today, the Ashanti monarchy continues as one of the constitutionally-protected, sub-national traditional states within the Republic of Ghana.

More at Wikipedia �Ashanti� for those interested, as this is only a portion of the details.

Part 2

With Alex�s research these are the flags that feature wood, or wood related products/images. Most are for countries, but some appear to be territorial.

Ashanti

Belize

British Indian Ocean Territories

Canada

Cyprus

Ecuador

Haiti

Hong Kong

Lebanon

Norfolk Island

Paraguay

Saint Pierre and Miquelon

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Alex Y

Well, we're getting quite a list. My list, including Canda, was

Belize

Bolivia

Canada

Equitorial Guinea

Fiji


Haiti

Peru

And here's the result of the search I did:


Search for flags with trees

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Good on ya.  I only wish

Gary Smyth

I had found that site. I bounced all over the web, two different atlas, and even found an old state department publication. I could not find a full page flag picture site I could scroll through so I went flag by flag. Most were too small to see all but the basic color scheme. I thought that I was in good shape but oh so wrong. Good searching!

By the way, if I'm wrong, call me out. I try to do the research for the trivia but I do not mind correction. In my view it makes for a better trivia as we all learn something.

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No right or wrong here

Alex Y

Particularly on a question like this, no one has all the answers. The web page I found missed some of the trees you saw.

And we all learn from it. Alas, rather useless knowledge, but still fun. ;)

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Dan Donaldson

I am like you and try to research the questions and find at least two sources that agree, but that doesn't always work, and I have really learned a lot from this board. Some neat stuff shows up that sometimes leads me off into uncharted (for me) territory.

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