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Although there are many of these still to be seen, most that still exist are there because someone wanted them saved. Current technology has made most of these obsolete and what was once common have been replaced in one form or another. There are numerous examples worldwide, with one of the oldest historical examples being excavated in Egypt. The ancients had more than a few technical details worked out but the dark ages lost them. A good idea is a good idea, and over time the item was re-invented and these could be found around a large number of population centers. Great improvements came from experimentation in France and Great Britain in the eighteenth century. There are records of these in America even before there was the United States. When it became the United States even George Washington was involved. Standardization/control didn�t come to America until the nineteenth century, but occured earlier by several decades in Europe.

The name of what I�m searching comes in various sizes and shapes. They were expensive items from the earliest times and while wooden ones have proven to not be the best material over the long run there are three in the United States that are identified as being of wood�although wood is only a component. There is movement associated with these items but not like a vehicle. These would have been considered �scientific� for their time period but today though science is still a component, the items themselves today are replaced by other technology and considered mostly non-essential, but �helpful�.

Easier: What is the name of the item? More difficult: Identify where in the United States the wood ones are located.

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#3

Only in a weak but essential sense.

Do not think markings on a device. Hint. Using your guess these could, in a stretch, be thought of the same as a department in any library. Also, correction. I said three were known to me in the original question. I've since found at least three more making a total of six, perhaps seven if you count a replica at a tourist attraction.

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#4

Hint

The largest number of these was located in Michigan but not the oldest or the most complicated.

Staten Island, New York was the largest but not the only maintenance center for these items.

These were considered important items so the government had inspectors to assess them. These inspectors were very strict and noted the most minute details from dust to polished brass. Serious infractions, not earlier reported were cause for immediate dismissal.

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#5

Re: Hint

I am thinking that we are talking about a coastal item, and the measurements would be time intervals. If I am wrong I sure you will enlighten me.

glc

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#6

Re: Hint

The government issued a toolbox that was supposed to take care of today's trivia. The contents are below.

Crosscut handsaw, 25�, 8 point

Side cutting pliers, 8�

Gas pliers, 10�

Ripsaw, 28�, 5 point

Screwdriver, 4�

Commpass saw, 14� and 8�

Hacksaw frame, 10�

Draw knife, 8�

Calking irons, #0 and #1

Saw set

Jack plane, 14�

Oil stones

Smoothing plane, 9�

Rule, 2 foot

Ratchet sweep brace

Wood spokeshave, 3�

Drill bits, (1 set)from 1/4" to 1" by eighths

Steel square, 24�

Try square, 6�

Nail sets, 1 large 1 small

Nail hammer

Hatchets #3

Machinest hammer, 2 lb.

Wood chisels 1/2", 1", 1 1/4"

Cold chisels

Cape chisels

Hacksaw blades, 10�

Saw files, 6�

Flat files, 10� smooth

Flat files, 14� bastard Wood Chises 1/2"and 1"

Half round files, 14� bast.

Stillson wrench, 10�

Screw wrench, 10�

Gimlet bits #4, 5, 7, & 8

Socket wood gouges, 1/2"

Rose countersinks

Dividers, 8�

Small countersunks to fit brace

Screwdriver bits1 large, 1 small

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#7

You have a geographic advantage

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#8

Re: Hint

I guess I can't get a job, I don't have the calking irons or all of the gimlets. What are gas pliers?

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#9

Re: Monday answer

Gary gets the gold star for his forehead. May it serve as a beacon to keep him from floundering. Today�s answer is one of America�s most beloved building types -- the lighthouse.

The archaeological excavation is being done outside of Alexandria, Egypt, and that is the Pharos lighthouse (270 BC), one of the seven wonders of the ancient world. Around the Mediterranean the Arabs, Moors, and the Romans used lighthouses and developed polished reflectors to increase the light output and direction of beam. Finding fuel and transportation for it to remote sites was a high maintenance item for almost all lighthouses up until electricity. Alas, most of old technology was lost in the Dark Ages. Surprising to me, Finland and Denmark were among the early users of lighthouses. Flash forward a few millenia. George Washington, as President, personally approved the funding, location, and keepers of early lighthouses.

John�s early guess as a measuring device and my hint with the �department in any library� was as a �reference�. The measurement factor was from the lighthouse to hazards like rocks, or bars. It also gave the reference angle to a point of land. The movement in the trivia was not as a marking device per se, but the rotation and frequency of the beacon �flash�. With the correct chart and a pelorus, speed and direction of a ship with reference to land could be estimated. Sighting the light could in the best of circumstances and a first order light could allow a ship to stay twenty or more miles offshore.

The greatest invention for lighthouses was the Fresnel lens which is a remarkable story if you are interested in the science of optics. But for this trivia it is only well to know that a bureaucrat, an auditor, Stephen Pleasonton, in Washington, DC who was supporting his friend (a Winslow Lewis), refused to put the lenses in American lighthouses for forty (40) years because he was a tight fisted numbers guy, and didn�t understand the need or science. He relied on his friend (who owned the existing franchise for lights) to tell him if Fresnel lenses were a better technology and, of course, the answer was �no�. It took death to get America back on track with Fresnel lenses which cost $15,000 (1840 dollars) plus shipping from France. A legitimate 1st order Fresnel lens today is valued in the 2 millon dollar range. Replacement glass prisms for any light are almost impossible to replace. Plexiglas replacements often appear with the real prisms in museum displays.

Of those lighthouses still in existence, and there are about 160 around in the U.S. and many more around the world, there are six (seven if you count a replica) that are of wood. Of these, four are part of the light keeper�s house. Indicated by a (*). Typically they are clapboard or shake built into the center of the house, rising two floors above the residential area and not a separate tower. If these buildings would be located elsewhere they might be taken as a Midwest fire station with a built in hose tower.

(*) Rose Island Light in Newport, Rhode Island, -- owned by a private Foundation

(*) Pomham Rocks Light, East Providence, Rhode Island -- deactivated 1974 but restoration underway through 2006. Now a permanently lit private aid to navigation.

(*) Hereford Inlet Light, North Wildwood, N.J., -- moved inland and now a private aid to navigation.

(*) Old Yaquina Bay Light, Newport, Oregon, private aid to navigation, with a keeper for the protection of the old light. Now part of a state park.

Mukilteo Light, Mukilteo, Washington, -- Small wooden clad tower, part of private foundation, and the city of Mukilteo.

Mystic Seaport Light, Mystic, Connecticut, -- a wood shake replica two miles upriver from Noank, Connecticut, and a copy of the Brant Point Light on Nantucket Island Massachusetts �still in operation with a red light.

Lighthouses are now mostly classified as aids to navigation but not essential owing to modern GPS, Doppler radar, and sonar.

Lots of information and references. There is a web page or more on most of the existing lights. The Fresnel lens is a good story. So are the stories and schedules of the light keepers�every three hours, 24/7, to either wind the rotating mechanism, replace the lamp wicks, or the oil, or stoke the furnace for steam to run the fog horn. In addition every so often they lugged up their tower heavy containers of mercury on which the rotating beacon floated in a low friction bath. These men and women were dedicated!

Finally, as an adjunct, Northern Shipwrecks Database... Over the last 26 years, Northern Maritime Research has accumulated a database of more than 100,000 North American shipwrecks the lighthouses didn�t save covering 400 years. There is a list of wreck totals off the shores of the coastal states and descriptions can be had on each find...

Assorted facts about light houses

*Oldest existing is in Spain

*Oldest in the U.S, Sandy Hook, N.J.

* Most light houses in a state�Michigan, 220

* Most expensive St. George Reef, California, $715,000 (1882-1892)

*Light House mandated by law to be at all times manned and turned on and off by hand-- Boston Harbor

*The fog horn beeeeeeeohhhhhh sound is called a diaphone. The steady brrrrrrrrrrr sound is called a diaphragm.

* Before electricity and banks of batteries, whale oil with its clean burning was the first fuel, followed by cabbage oil, then lard, then kerosene.

* Ben Franklin said they were more important than churches.

* Glazing on lighthouse towers is called storm panes

* Keepers were paid the equivalent of todays $16,000 a year (considered lower middle class at that time)

* The Scottish family of Robert Louis Stevenson, (Treasure Island, Kidnapped, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde) for 80 years was the family specializing in building light houses. They were all engineers except for him, and did their work in Europe and the Far East.

* Before the ignore gender Coast Guard took over responsibility, there were 80 female keepers on record for the U.S. Lighthouse Establishment.

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#10

Re: Monday answer

Gary,

There are many more lighthouses in the US than the ones you list. There are at least three in the great lakes, maybe more. If you're talking about operating lighthouses that is a different story. PBS had a special about light houses in the US a while back. There are also several coffee table picture books of American lighthouses. Iv'e personally visited two on the Great Lakes. One in Door Co Wisc and the other North of Duluth on Lake Superior. Fascenating stories associated with them.

Thanks for the question.

John

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#11

Re: Geographical advantage??

I live in the Central Oregon High Dessert, 150 miles as the crow flys from the Old Yaquina Bay Light. Jeeze ;-)

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#12

True. The lighthouse towers

I listed were the one's I found to be of wood cladding. There are more I'm now sure. Since I posted I found Maryland has three screw pile lighthouses at Hooper Straight, Thomas Point, and Drum Point which are stations on metal stilts but the stations themselves and two of the "widows walk" towers appear to be wood clapboard. Stony point, New York has a station made of stone, but the tower placed and looking like a cut off church steeple appears to be wood. East Brother Island in California has a light built on the front of wooden dwelling. It is likely of wood to match the house. Two Harbors Minnesota has a 18 foot light sitting on a breakwater that also appears clad in wood. I did find more than several more made of/clad in wood, but they are in Canada notably in Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island, the remainder, of a little over 180 in number I checked, were of concrete, stone, brick, metal in caisson, skeletal/open web, cast iron or steel sheets. Additional wood lighthouses I'll be pleased to add to the list. I stand corrected. Extra credit star for those identified using wood as their tower construction material.

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#14

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#15

How about the HIGHEST lighthouse in the U.S. *LINK*

at least the continental U.S.

That would be the lighthouse at D. L. Bliss State Park, on the west shore of Lake Tahoe. Another wooden one, operated for about a year early in the 20th century, using carbide-drip acetylene gas (carbide hauled in on mules). It was apparently such a hassle to operate that it was replaced by one down on the beach, which was later replaced again by a more modern light.

Years ago, it took our younger son and me two days to find it - a very strong resemblance to an outhouse. I don't know its current condition, but I think they may have restored it at some point - not recently, given California's budgetary stupidity.

If you go to the park, you can get more information - the brochure just references "lighthouse trail."


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