Monday basics

I have questions

Are the shoes wing tips?

Is the vehicle in the garage a Hummer?

Would the buttocks to knee question include J Lo?

The answers might be critical to my WAGs...Thanks

Tom

Well....

Oxfords are low laced shoes so yes they can be wingtips. When the standards were written the Hummer didn't exist, but the distances have remained remarkably consistent over time, based on other stuff like parking space lines, auto frames, highway lane width and human body requirements. Speaking of which. What J. Lo adds to the booty (which is admittedly bubblelicious) she likely makes up for in the shortness of her legs. She is 5'6", see www.ceca-raznatovic.com/Jennifer-Lopez/

You got me going..

The biggest H3 HUMMER is 85.6" wide with the mirrors. When the door is opened the mirrors rotate inward and the doors extend outward. There is no listing on their dimensions data for this. I called a dealer and with the doors opened on both sides the dimension is 130" wide + or -. That is too close for me to the lane width for a car on a typical two lane rural road which is 12 feet wide. Yes, I know that the doors aren't open on the open highway but still, too close.

Re: Monday Answer

Only Tommy volunteered. J Lo added a little something to think about.

Answers

1. Storing one pair of men�s oxford shoes --12� x 11� x 8�

2. Distance (in inches) from edge of bed to clean under it (yea right!) --48� for broom or vacuum

3. Minimum (architectural standard) clearance (walls and/or other obstacles) for vehicle doors inside a garage -- 32� from partitions, cabinets, walls, doors, another vehicle

4. Maximum height for man reaching over a counter 24� wide and 36� high � 78�, woman is 66�

5. Minimum walking space required (width) for an adult -- 26� (Man or woman, elbows extended, as in a kitchen carrying something 40�. Two people passing, as in hallway 52�

6. Distance in inches from buttocks to back of knee for both men and women (sitting) � Women 19.3� and men 20.4�, to front of knee, women 23.4� and men 25.1�

7. Space required with body turned to provide the minimum clearance (thickness of body) 10.9� women and 12.0� men.

8. Bending over at a right angle to use a base cabinet and/or bottom of book shelf -- 34� to bend or squat, 36� if you are on one knee. Next time you bend over to pick up a screw from your work bench and then hit the back of your head on the table saw, remember I told you so

9. Minimum distance for knees under a desk (width and distance from top of knee to bottom of desk surface. � Width of desk knee hole is 22� but I�m using 25� and I need an additional two inches. Height of bottom of desk surface -- 28� with 6� from bottom of desk surface to top of knee

All of these standards are based on a woman�s weight of 140.5 lbs and a man�s weight of 167.4 lbs. Women at 5'4" and men 5'10".

If you ever wonder why things are built that don't fit this is probably one of the reasons why. The book is Time Saver Standards for Residential Development, Joseph De Chiara, 1984 (but still in use) McGraw Hill, 910 pages, originally at $75 but available today for fifty or so.

If you want to know about stuff from swimming pool depth to wheelchair clearances, site plans, master development, traffic flow, apartments, and a whole lot more, this is the book to find.

Re: Monday Answer

I wonder if there was enough changes to make it worthwhile to replace my 1941 copy of the Architectural Graphic Standards?

Re: Monday more

DB you caused me to look. I too have a 1941 third edition (orange and black-341 pages.). The 1941 issue has perfect lettering, and some pretty neat illustrations. Like the proper space for typists and hats and collars for men. It's interesting that a work bench with vises is in the childrens section(p. 235). And the average human male in 1941 was 5'9" (p 293) not 5'10" as identified in 1984.

For interested people here are a few more related architectural references. You can go broke buying these. At first there was one, now there are many. Everybody wants a piece of the pie.

� Landscape Architectural Standards, Student Edition (Paperback),September, 2007, $85.00

� Time Saver Standards for Housing and Residential Development, Chiara, September 1994, $69.00

� Architectural Graphic Standards (different from original), AIA , March 2007, $188.66

� Time Saver Standards for Interior Design and Space Planning, Chiara, 2001, $104.15

� The Measure of Man and Woman-The Human Factors in Design, Alvin Tilley, 2001, $51.83

� The Codes Guidebook to Interiors, Sharon Harmon, 2005, $51.95

� Architectural Graphic Standards (the original, 10th edition), Ramsey and Ray and Hoke, 2000, $250.00

Then there are the references for construction, lighting, color, comparative building types, urban, multifamily, architectural detailing, site planning, etc. Note: I went to � price books and if you look in the Interior Design section, an identical book will cost you fewer dollars than if it is in the Architecture section. For those of you interested in this stuff, a architecture school used books sale is a good look. Also, if you want to revisit the 1950-60's office look, you can view the show "Mad Men" on AMC channel. Looks like the Cleavers but with smoking.

Re: Monday more

That is the same book I have.

If I bought a new one at list price some of those dimensions will have to change because my wallet will be a lot thinner.