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Here is a three parter. In France during the mid 1600�s a style called Lou the fourteenth came to be. It spawned the growth of extravagant wood pieces with ornament out the wazoo (to my knowledge, NOT a French term). So part un. Why did all that ornament on wood take place when they had perfectly good, highly detailed, and more expensive furniture at the palace before the style came to be?

Part deux: Who was termed the finest cabinetmaker �the most skilful in Paris� during that time?

And trois: Why is it such furniture not legally made today?

Extra credit: Why did many of the French designs bop over to England (a political enemy) which, in turn turned dull old England into providing the William and Mary, Queen Anne and Georgian, and revival of the Palladian styles as we call them today?

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number 1-- , because Louis the XIV had furniture for show, not comfort?

number 2--- Charles Boulle

number 3-- It used tortise shell and ivory, illegal today.

William had a "keep up with the joneses"

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Dan got it all. Although my answer differs slightly with some detail he is correct.

1. Though certainly not the only factor, a significant reason was because just before the Louis the XIV style (1643 to 1715), came to be at the palace at Versailles, it had solid silver furniture�tons of it. (Even with a pillow it had to be cold and uncomfortable.) Alas, at least 1600 (chairs, mirrors, tables, benches, candleholders, on and on) of the sterling pieces were removed and melted down in order to pay for France�s disastrous European wars. Still, party animal Lou WAS the Sun King, and he wanted things to glow and reflect light in any and all ways, so the ornate silver furniture was replaced by similarly detailed pieces, but this time using glass, fine wood, tortoise shell, ormolu, gilt.

2. The person most noted for the design was Andre-Charles Boulle, famous for highly detailed marquetry, nothing at all like the giant �puzzle� pieces of today, and ormolu mounts on furniture. The mounts were supposedly made to protect the corners of furniture with metal, but soon were just an excuse to replace the detailed figures and nature representative designs that were lost when the earlier silver furniture was melted down. If anyone would have named Charles Cressent, Pierre Gouthi�re, and/or Jacques Caffieri, Jean Berain, they would also count as key designers.

3. Ormolu (French for powdered gold) involved fire gilding (mostly) brass and bronze with mercury and gold as an amalgam. Soon craftsmen who were casting, chasing and engraving the pieces were dropping like flies in the furniture foundries and shops. Owing to nasty mercury poisoning, true Ormolu furniture is illegal and banned in the West. It therefore isn�t replicated. However, I�ve since researched a little and what happens in China stays in China so some new pieces do happen to appear in the high end market. If the Chinese fixed the poisoning problem it wasn�t mentioned. Ivory and tortoise is also banned for trade and sale if new so Dan is correct.

Extra Credit: The designs came to England because the Protestant French designers were literally getting pummeled by their Catholic �brothers� in the guilds. For awhile you had to repeat religious oaths to enter into a guild and they were controlled by the Crown who were Catholic, so instead of giving up their faith or getting beat to death, off these Huguenots sailed to England where they were welcomed at court and they spruced up the place in no small part to emulate what was happening in France. You might say masculine London had a severe case of Paris envy! When the revolution happened, the former Frenchmen were more than happy to be in England and their new designs developed along the preferences of the English nobility, with the added influence of the furniture and craftsmanship from East India Company. This led to the furniture forms known today as William and Mary, Queen Anne, Georgian, and a resurgence of the earlier Palladian styles.

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Where did you find this? I would like to read a bit more about it.

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Ohhh boy. The thought started by thinking about why we don�t see liquid mercury as we used to. I ran across this quote and this is what started the question. "Hang him; a gilder that hath his brains perished with quicksilver is not more cold in the liver".�John Webster, The White Devil, 1612. As in most of my questions the answers are kind of all glommed together from free association sources. But the main text info started with Martin and Judith Miller �Period Details�, Oliver Garnett �Living in Style�, the net for Ormolu. �The Artisans and Guilds of France� by Francois Icher went heavier into the guild battles. The China new Ormolu info originally came from a local antiques/auction source. A call to Skinner in Boston to get a second source gave me little hard info but was specifically not rejected as false. (Is there some minor international incident in the works?) However, China certainly knows the technology involved for antique ormolu pieces as �Treasures From The Bronze Age of China� published MOMA and �Imperial Tombs of China� published by the Portland Art Museum both have shown 2nd Century BC Han gilded bronzes using the same fire gilt methodology. �France, Solid Silver Furniture� search came from the net backed by the Garnett book. Silver Furnishings at the Court of France 1643-1670, Frances Buckland, The Burlington Magazine, Vol. 131 helped too. Subject: �Chinese Ormolu Furniture� on Google got me into it as well. If you have a particular thing you want to research, write and I�ll do my best to get the source as I generally return the stuff before I write the trivia at WoodCentral.

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