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2nd question, is wood related

There are substantial engineering factors involved but how deep do you set a 40 foot long wood utility pole? There are quite a few answers to this one depending on who's doing it, location (latitude and soil), slope of location, grade of pole, wind loads, raptor protection ordinances, and other factors including the wood used. Oddly diameter of the pole has little effect if a relatively constant taper. But for this bit of trivia assume a single stand alone pole (not poles in a line), in central U.S., in dirt, and no crossbar, on level land.

Bonus for breaking the code for the following pole woods: WC,WP,JP,LP,NP,DF,SP,WL. One of these designators should appear somewhere on each pole.

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Dale Lenz

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WAG..Sink the sucker 1/3 it's length. Your Bonus ?'s are species of trees...So ya'll have at it......Dale

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Clarification/hint

My answer is a simple "formula" (really more of a rule of thumb) used by line guys. The formula is the only published information on the matter that I was able to find. I can tell you this. There is a minimum of five feet depth on a pole for cable or telephone

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Answer : Wood pole

Answer: Taken from the Lineman’s and Cableman’s Handbook, Fifth edition. A rule often followed for determining the setting depth in soil is to take 10% of the pole length and add 2 ft., with a minimum of 5 ft. Therefore the setting depth of a 40 foot pole would thus be 10% of 40 = 4 ft + 2 ft. = 6 ft.

It will be noted that the setting depth of 5 ft. for a 20 ft. pole the increase in depth averages 4 inches for each 5 ft. increase in pole length.

There are 10 grades of wood poles. A #1 pole will support the most weight, a #10 the least. The test for a #5 pole is that it must support 1900 lbs. applied two feet from the top and pulled at a horizontal angle. If it does it passes the test--but when installed in the field it is only permitted to support 475 lbs. when new. This is a required safety factor of four. The National Electrical code recognizes that over the twenty five to thirty year life of a pole it will deteriorate and loose its weight supporting capacity. The inherent strength factor will allow the pole to deteriorate up to 2/3 during its lifetime. This would still leave an adequate safety margin if the pole was properly treated and continuously maintained.

Poles are also identified by their length. A 35 foot #5 pole would be identified by 35-5 burned into the pole. Poles are different lengths because of required clearances between supported service lines. A standard pole (35-5) can carry a 7200 volt line, transformer, drop line, telephone line, and one or two cable lines. There are required distances between each of the lines, and there are required minimum distances that the lines must be supported above the ground. Different classes of roadways, drive ways and business/residential environments require different minimum clearances. Higher voltage carrier lines require greater clearance distances. All of these factors go into determining the minimum length of a pole for a specific installation

Pole wood codes:

WC = western red cedar

WP = ponderosa pine

JP = jack pine

LP = lodgepole pine

NP = red pine

DF = douglas fir

SP = southern pine

WL = western larch

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