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Relocating to Mars, or some remote jungle in SE Asia

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Relocating to Mars, or some remote jungle in SE Asia

#1

Peter Martin

I don’t typically share personal details online, but I’ll make an exception here because I value the perspectives of those who regularly participate in this forum. I say "perspectives" rather than "advice" to emphasize that I’m fully accountable for my own choices. If I act on someone’s opinion and things don’t work out, I’d never point fingers. Does that make sense? 
With that in mind, here’s my situation. 

I’ve reached a stage where I want to downsize dramatically, to the point of owning almost nothing material. I’m unmarried, have no dependents, and no one relies on me for support. My home and possessions feel like a burden, anchoring me and keeping me from pursuing what I truly want. The house is paid off, but I’ve deliberately let it slide a bit since material things don’t mean much to me. I’ve had no interest in chasing the latest design trends—you won’t find granite countertops or cutting-edge appliances here. That said, I did upgrade the HVAC to a more efficient model with better heating and cooling ratings because that just made practical sense. 

Until recently, I figured that if I were to remodel, I’d do it right before selling. My reasoning was that updating everything now, only to sell a decade later, would leave it outdated again by then. It seemed smarter to refresh the place—new floors, paint, appliances—just before putting it on the market. 

So, I see two paths forward: 
1. Remodel to boost the market value, being careful not to over-improve beyond what’s typical for the neighborhood. 
2. Sell it "as is" at a discount. 

I’m leaning toward option two for a few reasons. First, it lets the buyer customize it to their taste—floors, paint, appliances—which might differ completely from what I’d pick. If they’re financing, a lower purchase price means smaller mortgage payments, potentially saving them a lot over the loan term. A buyer eager to buy low and fix it up themselves as they go could build equity faster than if they bought a pricier, already-renovated home with those costs baked into the price. 

Second, home improvements rarely pay off fully in terms of market value. On average, things like kitchen or bathroom remodels, or adding a deck, only return about 50% of the investment. Some upgrades, like pools, can even lower the value and spike insurance costs. Improvements are more about making a home sell faster than driving up the price—great for a sluggish market, but that’s not the case where I live. 

Another possibility is fixing it up and renting it out. But my goal is to leave the U.S. and live abroad, renting myself so I’m never tied down. I’ll need funds from this property—whether from selling or renting—to avoid ending up destitute. Managing a rental from afar, possibly while I’m off living in a bamboo hut in some jungle, doesn’t appeal to me. I handle basic maintenance like unclogging drains or minor repairs myself. Paying someone else to do that could eat up any rental profit. And then there’s the nightmare of dealing with a squatter—someone who stops paying rent, causes damage, and forces me to navigate eviction from halfway across the globe. That’s a headache I’d rather avoid. 

I suppose it’s clear which way I’m leaning, but I’m curious if there’s anything I might be overlooking. Thoughts?

Re: Relocating to Mars, or some remote jungle in SE Asia

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Jim DeLaney, Austintown, Ohio

Upgrade carefully, and be aware of potential ROI before doing anything.
DO NOT rent it out unless you have a reliable property manager.  Trying to manage a rental from afar id a recipe for disaster.  The only possible advantage to renting it out - other than potential income vs expenses - is that you'd be able to return to 'visit' for purposes of checking on the property while taking a 'business expense' tax write-off for the cost of your trip.
Unless it's hopelessly outdated, I'd sell "as is" and invest the income.

Re: Relocating to Mars, or some remote jungle in SE Asia

#3

I upgrade my house in OH before I sold it.  I did all the work so the cost was a lot lower than paying someone else to do it.   The only room that was not finished off when I sold it was the living room.  It still had the old carpet in it.  I figured the new owner would want to put in something they liked.

You can do some basic stuff to help with the sale.  If a room looks to out of date it hurts the price, so I would paint the walls a netural color.  When I was looking for.a house here in TN I really didn't care about paint or stuff I knew I would update anyway.  I looked at the showers, windows, doors (to see if they stayed open or closed on their own), shingles, gutters, water heater etc.  

I agree with Jim about renting it out, get a god property manger, leave around 10K in an account so it will cover any expense that might happen.  

Mike

Re: Relocating to Mars, or some remote jungle in SE Asia

#4

Your analysis makes a lot of sense in that upgrades rarely yield a return on investment and only make sense if they are done to correct a functional deficiency.  In today's market I see many homes in our region, central Maryland, that would normally be classified as "fixer uppers" quickly going for the listed price, or bid up higher.  And, regarding a rental option if you plan to live far away, I believe has the potential for a lot of nagging issues unless you have a good active property manager. In that case you will need to relinquish a bit of revenue to the manager's fee in addition to any repairs that are done.  This situation is unlikely to yield a profitable result, and it caries the risk of depreciating the value of the property over time due to wear and tear.
Best result:  Sell it as is.

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