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Cabinet Door Sizing

#1

Howdy all.  I am about to make my first set of cabinet doors, and I want to make sure I am thinking right.  

The opening is 20 inches.  I want two doors.  I have 1/2 inch over lay soft close hinges.  

So I am thinking each door should be 10 1/2 inch wide?

The 1/2 inch should be above and below the opening as well?

Thanks
Mike

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#2

Maurice

This is face frame type cabinetry  ?
I've never done face frame but I know it's a very popular system in the US. 
At times like this I feel very redundant because I've only ever used butt hinges except when boatbuilding when SOS hinges are quite popular. No idea why. Absolute pig's to fit. 
Mind you a lot of people say that about butts. Sorry, not sure if I can help at all on this one. I generally make the carcass first then the doors. Usually a tad oversize. Trim to fit tight. Mark the hinges and initial fit.
After that I gauge the edges and trim with a sharp block plane and or no 4. 
Same with casement windows and door's.
A decent 8 inch jointer planer is excellent for trim fitting but i don't have one.

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#3

Thanks.  These are face frame cabinets.  I am not brave enough to try and do inset doors.

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Mike L wrote:

Howdy all.  I am about to make my first set of cabinet doors, and I want to make sure I am thinking right.  

The opening is 20 inches.  I want two doors.  I have 1/2 inch over lay soft close hinges.  

So I am thinking each door should be 10 1/2 inch wide?

The 1/2 inch should be above and below the opening as well?

Thanks
Mike


Mike, yes, 10 1/2" each. Once sized, allow for the reveals, and plane to size.

Regards from Perth

Derek

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#5

As Derek says, 10-1/2" wide finished size each. Also add 1" overall (2 X 1/2") to each door greater than the cabinet opening height as you surmise. Slainte.

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#6

Thanks All.  Once I get this all figured out, I will be dangerous(-;

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Maurice

Mike L wrote:

Thanks.  These are face frame cabinets.  I am not brave enough to try and do inset doors.

It's really not that hard but it is a bit more work and you do kinda need to work more accurately. 
There are two reasons why face frame came about. The first is the obvious time and cost saving. The second less obvious one is that it hides carcass sag when the carcass is loaded up. 
The face frame has many tempting advantages because you don't have to worry about sag causing the door to bind inside the frame or the development of uneven gaps. 
Does it look as good ? Personal preference I guess. A well constructed inset door cabinet just looks better because it's flush. You can use scratched beads to add a nice decorative element. 
Give it a try next time. 😉  
Honestly I think you will find it very satisfying and it's another feather in your cap.
Brass butt hinges look cool 😎 and they don't squeak either. Brass is self lubricating.

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My wife likes the look of Shaker doors and cabinets in general.  After I get done with these, I will try inset doors.  I practice on shop cabinets if they don't look as good no one notices it.  Right now I have 6 plastic base and upper cabinets I use, they were left here by the last owner.  I was replacing them with metal ones, until I figured out I can practice making them with the bonus of using them in the shop.  Thanks again

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Maurice

Shaker cabinets look great. Massive fan.
And you haven't lived until you've made a cabinet out of American Cherry. It's got to be my favourite US  hardwood with Walnut and white oak a close second.  
Only one complaint about Cherry. It gums up saw blade teeth quite quickly. Oven cleaner gets it off nicely.
Do it man ! 
The first cabinet I made for my wife was a shaker style Cherry blanket chest. It's her favourite piece. 
You guy's have some of the best quality timber on the planet. Make the most of it.

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I am making these cabinets out of soft maple.  I love working with cherry and walnut.  Here is a walnut topped hall table my wife made.

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Maurice

My stupid phone won't open that file I'm afraid. I'm the lowest skilled tech operator.
Hate computers. Can't even figure out how to adjust my own image sizes. 
Can you put up an image ?
I keep a stash of American walnut for Harpsichord making. It's the best. Stronger and finer than European. Made a Harpsichord out of it. It ages to a beautiful honey golden colour. So expensive down under though.

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Maurice

Soft maple ? Is that like Sycamore ? 
I've worked Rock Maple. Definitely one of those timbers where a sharp cabinet scraper is required. 
Sycamore is quite popular for its figuring. 
I've used it for decorative inlay and name board's. Contrasts nicely with ebony lines.
American organ builders use a lot of poplar.
It's not pretty but it's easy to work, holds screws well and has excellent acoustic qualities. If you've ever heard a woodpecker hammering on a cotton wood the sound carries like no other timber. 
The Amish use it for paint grade cabinet's.
It's good honest plain lumber. 
Ah the smell of cottonwoods in spring.

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