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#1

Joe Fleming

I acquired a used T7 Tormek sharpener last year and finally dusted it off to try sharpening a Stanley 4-1/2 plane iron and cap iron.  The plane is an inheritance from my father-in-law.  Here is what I found.

  • Because the iron is wider than the wheel, you have to move the iron back and forth across the surface.  This means that the center of the iron is getting more touches than the edges.  I ground a concave cutting edge even with a camber grind.  I used the SE-77 jig.

  • You have to really set the the angle of the iron to the body of the jig to be 90 degrees.  I used the adjustment right out of the box and had a slight angle on the grind.

  • The iron had pitting very close to the cutting edge on the back of it.  I lapped the crap out of it on the side of the wheel and on a coarse diamond stone, but couldn't cut below the pitting.  I ended up setting the SE-77 to about 3 degrees and ground a back bevel.  This did cut below the pitting, but it makes the included angle a bit more blunt.

  • Because of the concave grind, I ended up squaring the iron on the coarse diamond stone, then sharpening on the diamond stones (coarse, fine, extra fine DMT stones), followed by stropping.  The plane works great.


Tormek questions:

  • How do you keep the cutting edge square and straight on the Tormek?

  • Can you lap chisels and irons on the side of the wheel?  Is this recommended?

  • Any recommendations on using the camber adjustments on the SE-77?  I found them fiddly and difficult to re square once I tinkered with them.

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#2

Jim DeLaney, Austintown, Ohio

Joe FlemingTormek questions: wrote:
  • How do you keep the cutting edge square and straight on the Tormek?

  • Can you lap chisels and irons on the side of the wheel?  Is this recommended?

  • Any recommendations on using the camber adjustments on the SE-77?  I found them fiddly and difficult to re square once I tinkered with them.

1. Using a square - on a DRY - stone, mark a line across the stone.  Align the blade's edge to that line when securing the blade into the fixture.
2. You can, but it'll take a long time, and the resulting lap might not be even across the iron.  Not really recommended.
3. No recommendations.  I've found the same thing as you.

I've had my Tormek 2000 for 24 years and have worn out two stones so far.  Right now I have the harder 'black' stone on it.  Seems to cut just as well, but with less wear on the stone itself.

BTW:  Do you have the diamond stone dresser?  It's pretty much essential to keeping the stone surface straight and square.

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#3
  • How do you keep the cutting edge square and straight on the Tormek?

  • Can you lap chisels and irons on the side of the wheel?  Is this recommended?

  • Any recommendations on using the camber adjustments on the SE-77?  I found them fiddly and difficult to re square once I tinkered with them.


Start with a squared wheel. Tormek wheels need to be dressed all the time. If you are feeling flush, get a 180 grit CBN wheel for it.

The blade holder should have an internal shoulder/fence. Set up can be very quick. Check with a square.

You can do rough lapping on the side of the wheel. 

Avoid cambering the blade in the Tormek. Do this on stones. The Tormek is a grinder and not (as the manufacturer wants you to believe) a sharpening system. 

Regards from Perth

Derek

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#4

Joe Fleming

Derek, Jim - great feedback.  Thanks.  

  • I actually ordered a set of small engineer squares because I do not have something small enough to work with the SE77 and a blade installed.

  • Agree on Derek's cambering advice.

  • I do have the wheel dresser and did dress the wheel prior to attempting this stuff.


My biggest problem is that I'm an engineer and I don't read instructions.  (Engineer's character flaw  :)  ).  I do like to observe, so I love YouTube for techniques and instruction if it is good.

I bought the tool mostly to sharpen carving tools, although I am quite comfortable on the diamond stones.  I'll probably try a turning gouge to see how that works, but doubt that will be my ongoing method.  Maybe I'm a tool junkie?

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