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smoothing with scrapers

John K Jordan

Someone asked me about how I make use of hand scrapers. I wrote this and included negative rake scrapers. This is the first draft, not well proofread or edited. Comments and constructive criticism welcome.

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SMOOTHING WITH NEGATIVE RAKE AND HAND SCRAPERS

John K Jordan

11/30/18

This small "squarish" dished platter is an example of how I make good use of both NRS and hand (cabinet) scrapers to smooth bowls, platters, and other turnings.


After the finishing cuts with a gouge or other tools (my favorite is the small Hunter Hercules), the scrapers can smooth the wood surface so very little sanding is required. I can usually start with finer grits such as 220 or 320 or even finer grits. I either sand by hand or use gentle power sanding with a pneumatic random orbital sander.

I want the surfaces to be perfect, or as perfect as I can get them. I won't tolerate uneven surfaces or scratches. Using the scrapers gives me a "perfect" surface every time, with surprisingly little effort.

NEGATIVE RAKE SCRAPERS

After the finishing cuts I use these negative rake scrapers to remove most of the tool marks. I ground these from Thompson scrapers and a skew chisel.


I grind the top and bottom bevel exactly the same, creating a 60-deg included angle. Grinding the top and bottom angles the same lets me use them either side up as needed without regrinding, simply by changing the burr.

Since there are no forces involved in use, I use them hand-held without handles. I also grind the tang to give me a few smaller negative rake scraper shapes for free.

I sharpen these on a 600 grit CBN wheel, hone off any burr from the grinder, then raise a burr with a burnishing rod. I mark the top side with a "T" to keep from picking up the wrong one. As the burr wears, I hone it away and raise a new burr a half dozen times before going back to the grinder.

I've seen other turners use scrapers like this but none ground with a short "almost" flat at the end. The combination of the side curve and the end flat lets me work on surfaces that are curved and almost flat.

These scrapers are use horizontally with the flat firmly on the tool rest. When properly sharpened and used gently they can remove the lightest whispers of shavings.

The bottom of the small platter is a good example. The first photo shows smoothing a curve on the bottom. The second shows using the flat on the wings of the squarish shape. I found this smoothes the wings far better than using a curved scraper.


HAND SCRAPERS

For me, smoothing with hand scrapers has some big advantages over rotary power sanding. For one thing, I dislike the clouds of dust from coarse paper disks on an electric sander. The scrapers make savings instead of dust and the finer grits on when sanding by hand or by the ROS produce little dust.

The biggest advantage is the scrapers can remove tool marks quickly without compromising the surface. Power sanding with coarse grit can abrade softer areas of the wood quicker than the harder sections. A curved hand scraper doesn't.

Hand scrapers will very quickly smooth away any ripples or undulations. Common center defects like small mounds or dips are easily removed.

I use several types and shapes of hand scrapers. These are some of my favorites (the grid spacing on the mat is 1 cm squares):


The one with gentle curved edges at the center left gets the most use on the inside of the small dished platters shown above. The smaller scrapers above are good for tighter spots such as inside a bowl, under a rim or around a foot. Some with flat edges are helpful on convex surfaces such as the bottom of a platter or the outside of a bowl.

The three at the bottom of the photo are from Stewart MacDonald, often bought by people who make guitars and violins. They are made from 1/8" thick tool steel, sharpened on a grinder and used without a burr. These are fairly expensive but are extremely useful in some cases.

The top two rows are from thinner, somewhat flexible steel. I grind these to shape from traditional cabinet scrapers – the higher quality and thicker scrapers are better. Shaping with a belt or disk sander heats them less than a bench grinder. To sharpen, these scrapers are ground, filed and/or honed, then a burr raised with a burnishing rod. More about sharpening below.

USING THE HAND SCRAPERS

These photos show one of the most useful shapes for smoothing the top surface of the small dished platters. Always scrape "downhill" relative to the grain, which on the top/inside means from the outside towards the inside. Often, scraping somewhat diagonal to the grain works better.

I use these with the lathe off and the piece removed from the lathe. Removing the piece make it FAR easier to see any defects than it is when bending over to look while the piece is mounted on the lathe. I keep the piece in the chuck and mount the chuck on a carving and finishing post (from Best Wood Tools). This mounts in the banjo at the lathe or in a bracket fastened to a workbench. The post allows the piece to be tilted and rotated easily. Before I got the post I still took the piece off the lathe and held the chuck between my knees while scraping and hand sanding.

The pictures, clockwise from left:

- the scraper

- scraping downhill

- using my fingers to protect the edges

- scraping a problem spot with an end of the scraper


I made several of these scrapers with different curves and choose the one that most closely matches the surface.

After scraping I wipe Naptha over the surface and look at it carefully in a strong light, moving the piece so the light comes from different angles. This makes it easy to see even very small surface defects.

SHARPENING HAND SCRAPERS

I sharpen the hand scrapers with a 600 grit CBN wheel. To make the edge exactly perpendicular to the sides I made a jig from 1/8" plexiglas (the top one at the left). This lets me easily set the tool rest on the grinder. I gently grind the sides of the scraper being careful not to overheat the steel.


After grinding, I use an extra-fine diamond hone to smooth the edges and the sides to remove any burr from the grinder. I use the carbide burnishing rods on the right to raise the burr and restore the burr when it gets dull.

>>> An article in the December 2018 issue of Fine Woodworking (page 20), "Sharpen and use a curved scraper" has the best instructions I've seen for sharpening a hand scraper. Author Peter Galbert not only explains how but why it is important to keep the edge precisely perpendicular to the sides and why the edge needs to be smooth. He also confirmed what I've long suspected, that raising the burr with a burnisher work-hardens the burr making it last longer.

ABOUT SANDING

When I do power sand, I usually use this Grex pneumatic random orbital sander with 2" disks. Sometimes I use 3" disks on a palm sander I bought from Woodturners Wonders. Both of these sanders can be used at reduced speed for very gentle sanding.



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JKJ

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Mike Stafford

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Mike Stafford

John, what an excellent tutorial on a variety of subjects. You should put this into an article form and submit it to one of the turning magazines. More Woodturning published by Dennis Daudelin would love to have this kind of informative article.

Good photos also!

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mag article

John K Jordan

Thanks, Mikey! I haven't written a magazine article since the '70s and those were for software magazines.

Where would I find out about the process and submission requirements?

Seems like this would take some significant work and more photos to be complete.

JKJ

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Reed Gray

Contact AAW or More Woodturning. Both are receptive.

robo hippy

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Dwight Rutherford

Excellent tutorial! Should be published.

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this definitely needs to be published

GaryG in MD

I strongly recommend that you contact Josh Friend, the Editor of American Woodturner.

I can virtually guarantee he'll want this and work with you to make it happen.

editor@woodturner.org

I'm going to send him this link.

...GG

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Ric Taylor

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Ric Taylor

John,

Under HAND SCRAPERS, the third sentence confuses me.

Otherwise, this is great and thanks for putting it together. I may need to obtain some hand scrapers and learn how to use them.

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hand scrapers, third sentence

John K Jordan

>>>Under HAND SCRAPERS, the third sentence confuses me.

Yes, some typos there, thanks. Off to Crossville turning club, I'll review that when I get back. Thanks.

JKJ

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John lucas

It's an excellent article. Send querys to Josh at American Woodturner or John Kelsey at Woodturning Fundamentals, Dennis at More.Woodturning or Mark Baker at Woodturning. One of them would surely be interested. I just sent an article off to John Kelsey on sharpening scrapers so he may not be ready for another article even though yours is much more comprehensive. Dennis just published a review of some new negative take scrapers in More Woodturning and might be interested in how they are used.

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david

At a Utah Symposium a couple of years back, I saw Mike Mahoney do a demo on turning a paper=thin bowl. The wood was light colored and he used the light coming through the thin walls to gauge the thickness. There was a small area where the light showed the wall to be slightly thicker. He said not to worry about that area, he would fix that later. This after years and years being told never to go back to the thin upper wall sections!! Mike didn't have the tool he needed when the bowl was basically finished, so he went hunting around and borrowed a teardrop flat scraper from Avelino Samuel, who had demoed just before. This was the flat tip from a Sorby multi-tip hollower and he held it between his thumb and fore finger and at about a 45 degree angle and scraped the thicker area from the inside and was done in no time. What genius, I thought to myself. Being hand held as it was, he could have instant feed back how the scraper was cutting and could make this delicate cut without danger and the potential disaster.

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Reed Gray

If you can find it, there is an old video, probably tape, not CD, with Del Stubbs, who turns a paper thin bowl. He uses a shear scrape (gouge or scraper, I can't remember...) and water on the bowl, and very slow speeds. He didn't like turning them that thin because self destruct over a few years. Shear scraping is a very useful technique for micro adjustments.... Very gentle, and cleaner than the NRS...

robo hippy

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earliest reference

John K Jordan

The earliest reference I found about using curved hand-held card scrapers on wood turnings is in the 1957 book "The Practical Wood Turner" by F. Pain.

It's fascinating to read how things have changed and how they are the same. We sure have it easy now.

JKJ

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