Wedding Goblet

Re: Wedding Goblet

John K Jordan

The type of wood might make a difference.

Are you breaking holding in your fingers? Is the break just not clean, multiple breaks, what?

I'd try making a two part "clamp" to hold each side rigidly and limit the zone for flexing to a small spot. Just brain storming, I haven't tried this. I assume the goblet and rings are in end grain (spindle) orientation.

JKJ

Re: Wedding Goblet

John lucas

Hold the long grain side of the ring in your fingers and then snap it in two. Should break easily. If not use soft jaws on pliers or clamps to snap it. Then don't do anything to the break line. I like to use yellow glue. Put the joint together and hold it for 30 seconds or longer. Then carefully wipe the joint with a wet towel to remove excess glue.

Re: Wedding Goblet

Don Orr

Yes the piece is in "spindle " orientation and I was trying to break then with my hands. A clamp/holding device would have helped-thanks for the idea. I was getting clean breaks and also multiple pieces. I didn't really have a ton of time to get this finished as I had to deliver it last night (Monday). I just left 2 rings separately on the stem. Everyone seemed to like it anyway. I'll have to try again some time. I like the interlocked effect.

Re: Wedding Goblet

Don Orr

So it sounds as if I should break them completely in half and then re-glue ? I was hoping to just break 1 side at the short grain and flex it enough to get it around the other ring. Probably not the best plan.

Re: Wedding Goblet

Don Orr

Here is the goblet I made for our friends.

Re: Wedding Goblet

John K Jordan

I like your rings and base. I like them as they are, better than some interlocked rings I've seen.

JKJ

Re: Wedding Goblet

Don Orr

Thanks John-it means a lot coming from you.

Re: Wedding Goblet

jorge

Hi Don,

Nice shape; what finish did you use?

Re: Wedding Goblet

Don Orr

Bush Oil-a kind of "Danish Oil" made locally.

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Re: Wedding Goblet

Jim Barbour

I have found that if you break them carefully, with the grain on one side only, and then wrap the opposite side in a small piece of wet paper towel and heat it in a microwave for (in mine) 20 seconds, the wet side becomes flexible enough to open the break and work it around the other ring. Then line the broken spot back up and glue together. Sometimes you will need to bring the ends together while it is still hot and put on a small clamp until it cools to make the glue up work better.

Re: Wedding Goblet

Don Orr

Thanks very much for the input-very helpful suggestions.

Re: Wedding Goblet

John K Jordan

>>>... if you break them carefully, with the grain on one side only, and then wrap the opposite side in a small piece of wet paper towel and...

Brilliant!

Is that an original Jim Barbour technique?

JKJ

Re: Wedding Goblet

Jim Barbour

perhaps it is original in this case, but steaming wood to get it to bend is pretty common

Re: Wedding Goblet

Don Orr

I got thinking about this again and am wondering how to break just 1 side without destroying the ring ? Very nice goblets by the way.

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Jim Barbour

I use a cutter that embodies a utility knife blade as a wedge along a portion of the grain that will not stand out. I wedge from the inside of the ring so the small mark the cutter leaves is not noticeable, and then lightly sand it when it is all glued back together. If it is done carefully the ring will break when the cuter has penetrated roughly 1/16". I've put a link to the one I use.

On a slightly different note, I always turn three rings per glass, just in case something goes wrong. I seldom need the third, but occasionally it has saved a glass.


Craftsman Cutter

Re: Wedding Goblet

jorge

Don, I don't brake it, I use a 44 teeth to the inch saw from my airplane model days, it makes a very clean cut and after interlocking it I glue it with tightbond glue and clean with water any excess glue.

Re: Wedding Goblet

Don Orr

Excellent info-thanks very much!

Re: Wedding Goblet

Don Orr

More excellent info-Thanks Jorge!