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Summertime and precious trees

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Ellis Walentine

Summertime and precious trees

Ellis Walentine

As someone noted below, our summer traffic has been lower than usual for some reason. I can't answer for anyone else, but I personally have been working on home and garden projects this summer and hardly have had time for lathe work or message posting. In my case, my lathe and tools are on the other side of the continent, so turning isn't an option, although I would dearly love to be exploring the turning possibilities of old-growth timber that abounds here in British Columbia.

I don't normally talk much about environmental issues, although I consider them exempt from our forum rules restricting posts about politics and religion. But, having mentioned old growth, I feel it is important to clarify that I do not agree at all with cutting ANY old growth trees. Our old-growth forests are the last, best buffers against greenhouse gases, and they're being mercilessly cut down, for all the wrong reasons. The lumber I'm using up here in BC is all salvaged old growth, from logs that escaped log booms 50 or more years ago and have lain untouched on beaches and in the bays of our region. In other words these incredible trees have been off the radar for a half century or more. I'm still wary of using, and therefore glorifying in a way, rare and endangered materials such as old growth wood, elephant ivory and abalone, because their beauty can encourage further depredation of these materials.

So, my answer is to use salvaged materials judiciously and waste as little as possible. Our remaining old growth forests are the last refuge of complex ecosystems that sustain biodiversity and a healthy environment.

Ellis Walentine, Host

PS Here is my neighbor sawing up a 24"-diameter old-growth yellow cedar log that he dragged from the water last week. This stuff is remarkable for turning....


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George Guadiane

At the risk of being censured, I'm going to offer this perspective:

Concern for the suitability and sustainability of the planet's environment in providing a livable atmosphere, aquasphere and earthsphere isn't political in any way. People politicize those things in order to justify their own selfish short term self interest. They are willing to overlook facts, logic, reason and prudence to make a buck.

Being concerned about the safety of the source of our survival is primal not political.

(YES, I'm making up words)

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Right on George, and while risking political .....

JamieDonaldson

...purgatory I wish that certain politicians in DC would wake up and listen to reasoned proof of human degrading of our environment!

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Stuart Johnson

I spend hours watching sawing stuff on youtube while doing my elliptical machine. Watching some of the lumber being created out of what looks like rotten logs is amazing.

By the looks of sawdust this might be a good place for a sawdust stove. More youtube videos :\ .

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Is it politically incorrect  to say "AMEN" here?


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John K Jordan

i agree. I've never cut a tree on my property or any other just for the wood. I do take windfall and trees that have to be removed for some other reason. It's not "old growth" but I feel so fortunate to live in the middle of y.poplars and oaks 3' or so in diameter.

Our property was certified as an ag "forestry greenbelt" last year which gives the timber a small measure of protection in the future from clearing and development. There is a huge property tax incentive and a future developer would have to pay back taxes.

Should I ship a spare mini lathe and a couple of gouges your way?

JKJ

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Ellis Walentine

Thanks, John

Ellis Walentine

No, life works itself out. When the time and opportunities align, it'll all come together again. Meanwhile, I get to craft a whole environment for myself and my family. All is well. I wish I could say the same for the earth.

Cheers, and thanks,

Ellis

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Reed Gray

I do buy logs, myrtle (California Bay Laurel actually), and madrone. Perhaps I shouldn't though. In the logging around here, much of the myrtle is being cut and shipped over seas through the export docks. I would rather see it used locally than over there. There has been an effort to save our trees for ourselves and limit of block exporting raw product since the export logs go for a higher price than the locals can pay for them. With the Madrone, to the lumber mills, it is considered a trash tree, and most of the time goes into the chip or firewood pile. Very difficult to dry for lumber due to high water content and insane warping and splitting problems. They cut it because it is competition for the big money trees, Douglas Fir, and Western Red Cedar. A shame really since it is such a beautiful wood.

I did get my hands on one piece of Alaskan Yellow Cedar. A piece of burl that the owner wanted some bowls from. It does turn wonderfully.

Ellis, what are you doing in BC? I thought you were an east coaster???? Vacation?

robo hippy

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Ellis Walentine

Clarification

Ellis Walentine

Hi Reed,

No, I'm not against buying logs; that's where the wood is after all. It's just the old-growth forests that I want to see protected, and the best way to do that is not to buy old-growth lumber from recently harvested trees. Most of the fir and cedar on the market is from reforested plots of second growth trees, often less that 75 years old. Those biomes have already been destroyed, and will not return since the logging companies cut and spray competing species and undergrowth, not to mention that it takes hundreds or thousands of years for the biodiversity of a primal forest to reconstitute itself.

Myrtle and madrone are very nice to turn and build furniture from, and not likely to result in biome destruction. Both woods can be pretty spectacular, if you get the fancy figured stuff and burls. Let me know if you have any extra yellow cedar burl, because it is relatively scarce and it's one of my very favorites. I don't think I've ever smelled a more fragrant wood. I really should snooker around here for more of it.

Ellis

PS We built a summer home up here in BC three years ago, on an island between Vancouver Island and the BC mainland. Too bad there are so many fires up in the interior right now. Visibility is down to a mile or less because of the extreme amount of smoke in the air.

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Reed Gray

A lot of the old growth is being exported. China, Japan, and Korea are buying a lot of it and paying premium prices... Wish we would keep it here...

Yes, you have more smoke up there in BC than we have down here.... That time of year... Can't wait for the fall rain...

robo hippy

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