Hunter Viceroy video *LINK*

Re: Hunter Viceroy video

Mike Stafford

Very well done, John. Your videos are always instructive and this one is no different.

One question, I am guessing your were using the larger Viceroy with the 1/2" shank, right? Sometimes it is not easy to tell the difference in photos.

Re: Hunter Viceroy video

Philip Duffy

John, with respect, I fail to see the advantage of the Viceroy over a good bowl gouge other than it can be used by someone who knows very little about turning.

It was the large one

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john lucas

For the experienced turner there isn't much advantage. I didn't take huge cuts with it in this video. The big advantage is for new turners who constantly battle bowl gouges or simply have never even touched a tool. They can be almost instantly successful in turning a bowl or platter with no catches. Since it can be used as a bevel rubbing tool they have the ability to learn those techniques which will help vastly when they do buy bowl or spindle gouges.

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Reed Gray

I may have to see if I can get Mike to let me play with one in Portland. Scraper 101 lesson on bowls, though I prefer bigger scrapers for that work. I do like how this one can be used as a shear scraper and bevel rubbing cuts as well...

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John K Jordan

>>>I fail to see the advantage of the Viceroy over a good bowl gouge other than it can be used by someone who knows very little about turning.

I agree with John L., that's exactly what it is great for. I don't give it to students in my shop for 1-on-1 lessons (we start with the skew) but besides beginning turners it is also perfect to let a casual visitor make shavings and shape some wood with no practice or instruction other than "stand like this, hold like this, push into the wood like this".

For general use for woodturners, my opinion is the Hunter Hercules or Osprey tools are much preferred over the Viceroy or Clewes Mate and can be used for more advanced turning. The Hercules/Osprey can be used as scrapers or much like a bowl or spindle gouge, with some limitations but with some distinct advantages.

In turning some things I use those Hunters for much or most of the work, er, fun.

JKJ

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Don Orr

Nicely done as usual John-thanks. I just made a handle for my new #5 Hunter and tested it on scrap and man it works great. Thanks for all your excellent videos, especially with Hunter tools.

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John K Jordan

>>>I may have to see if I can get Mike to let me play with one in Portland.... I do like how this one can be used as a shear scraper and bevel rubbing cuts as well...

Reed, as I mentioned in the other message I just wrote, as an experienced turner you might like to try the Hercules or Osprey instead, probably the larger versions of each. They also have the cutter angled down a bit and work nearly the same way, but have some distinct advantages and I think far more flexible for bevel-rubbing cuts. One advantage of the Viceroy in a beginner's hands is it with the flat bottom it can easily be held flat on the tool rest.

Maybe there is a turner near you who has all these and will let you come play.

I've had several people come to my shop recently and try the Hercules/Osprey and then order or want one. Do you have that transporter operating yet?

JKJ

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Don Orr

I'd also like to add that I am fully capable of using and sharpening normal gouges and scrapers, but I really like the concept of having both tools in my hand at the same time with wicked sharp and durable edges and be able to switch back and forth at will. You can do that somewhat with gouges-I do it all the time. The Hunter tools are just better at it. They will not replace my gouges though.