Selling a lathe

Re: Selling a lathe

John Veerkamp

Post it in the classified section here. Be sure to include location.

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William Rogers

I will eventually post in the classifieds. I just trying to determine if I post with everything $1,500, or piece out and post $1,200 for basic lathe with tool rest options at $300. Included with the basic lathe will be 3 faceplates and a rotary adapter for vacuum chuck (no pump). $1,500 is on the high end IMO for a PM 90 and may be more difficult to sell. I think $1,200 for an 18" swing is a good starting point, just don't want to loose too much.

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John C Lucas

You can always try and if it doesnt sell lower the price.

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Paul

Hi,

I'd sell the lathe with 1 tool rest and everything else as an extra.

If you do decide to go that route, I'd be interested in the Robust tool rests depending on what they are.

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Michael Schneider

You can probably sell the robust tool rests for close to what you paid for them.

To maximize price, selling individual pieces will yield the highest total $$$.

I have no experience with the powermatic 90 individual sell price.

Good luck,

Michael

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William Rogers

The first thing I would do is offer a club member a fantastic deal on the whole package or part package if a member is interested. That would cost me, but that is part of being in a club with great members. Seems the trend is to sell without some of the tool rest. I would most likely offer the lathe with the 12" and 4" tool rest. That would leave me with the inside bowl rest, outside bowl rest, and 9" J rest. Still undecided on the offset banjo. Please remember the post size is

1 1/8", specific to PM 90's. I'll let you know Paul to see if you are interested. I have no doubt the tool post sill sell. I also have a nice index system I paid $90 for and have made a rotary vacuum adapter attached to a second hand wheel. This is a great set up for a PM 90 and I was considering going to a 2hp VFD before I jumped ship so to say.

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Paul Grenier

Oops. I forgot that the 90 has a 1 1/4" post. I have a 35120b and can only use 1" posts.

Paul

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William Rogers

The post is actually 1 1/8". If it was 1" I would keep them. PM 90 has an 1 1/2-8 spindle. Still I would have no trouble selling to PM owners even if their lathe wasn't raised as they could cut them down.

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john lucas

A good machinist can reduce the tool rest shaft quite easily on a mill, if you have a friend who is a machinist. Would cost as much as the rest to pay someone to do it. I downsized an older S shaped rest with a 1" shaft down to 5/8" to fit my mini lathe.

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William Rogers

Thanks John. If I was still working, it wouldn't be a problem or if I still lived in the area I use to work. I haven't talked to Robust yet, they may have procedures where they cut off the shaft and reweld it. But not hopeful. I plan on talking to them tomorrow when I finally figure out what tool rest I want.

Re: Selling a lathe

mikeee12345

You could auction the lathe and the accessories at your local wood turning club

and donate 10% of the sale to the club. You might end up with a fair price on the

items with all of the members attending the meeting and help the club at the same time.

There are a number of people that part out lathes and sell individual assemblies and do

very well in the "parts" business. Amazingly these people can double there return by selling

parts compared to the entire machine. It is easier to ship assemblies and parts so they can

market to a larger audience with that strategy.

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John K Jordan

>>>The first thing I would do is offer a club member a fantastic deal on the whole package ...

You might also advertise by sending emails to other clubs within the south east. I'd try that before listing it on Craigslist and having to deal with the nonsense there. People are willing to drive a ways to buy equipment - I drove up to Maryland last year to get the PM3520b (and then dropped in to visit Ellis while I was "in the area" :-) What an amazing guitar player!)

JKJ

I'd like to see how?

Dick Coers

How would you reduce the diameter of the tool post quite easily on a mill? Just curious, but I don't see how it would be done.

Re: I'd like to see how?

john lucas

My mind just went blank on what the device is called but it's an offset mill holder. I put a boring bar in it with the cutter facing toward the center of rotation. offset the cutter so it's slightly larger than the diameter you want. The clamp the tool rest to the crossfeed table and align it dead center with the mill. Now you just move the cutter in until it cuts and feed the cutter straight down. It could done on a drill press since since the offset tool holders are morse tapers. I'll take a photo later tonight. It's much easier if you can see what's being done.

Think of it like enlarging a hole that's already been drilled but reverse the cutter so it's taking of metal on the inside of the circle instead of the outside. It could of course be done on a lathe with a large faceplate to to align the tool rest but that would be a bear and require a lathe with a large swing.

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William Rogers

I appreciate all the recommendation. This is what I have decided to do; I am not going to try piece it out as with what I have makes this a very good system. I am going to offer to our club members first at a low price, if there are no takers I will post in the classifieds. JKJ, I'll talk to our club President on how to contact nearby clubs. I intend to price below market of similar lathes that do not have the accessories I have. I'm not looking to squeeze every nickel out of it and want someone to have a nice system. If all fails I'll start piecing things out, but I think it will sell in a reasonable time. This is what I will offer

PM 90 lathe 1 hp single phase raised 18" swing

350rpm to 2100rpm speed range

1 spur drive, 1 live center, spacer for chuck attachment

1 6" faceplate and 1 3 1/4" faceplate.

5 Robust tool rest, 12" straight, 4" straight, inside bowl, outside bowl, 9" J rest.

Off set banjo allowing full advantage of 18" swing

Index plate, locking with multiple set points

Made vacuum rotary adapter on extra out board face plate. No pump

Just for fun what price would you recommend

Thanks John, but quite easily?

Dick Coers

I understand the process now, but I'm used to an old Bridgeport and smaller tooling. Taking 1/4" off the full length of the bar seems like an afternoon to me. But with the proper machinery, it might just be a quite easy process. I'd be careful mentioning a drill press if it was me!

Re: Thanks John, but quite easily?

John C Lucas

It really doesnt take long. The spindle length on my smithy ist long enough to reduce the full length. It also isnt very beefy so .020" per pass is about all it will do. So.about 6 or 7 passes is all it takes. Then i lower the head and readjust so the cutter just touches the turned part od the shaft and then reduce that diameter. Took me longer than it shoukd because im such a beginner machinist.

Here is a photo

john lucas

You do have to run the cutter in reverse. I normally use a longer boring cutter I just grabbed the first thing handy for the photo. Used in a Boring head it's very easy to get the exact size.

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Dick Coers

I know the head very well, used them in the model shop at Caterpillar. I was just trying to visualize doing that to my Oneway tool rests is the problem. It has a 5" long stem, on just a curved piece of steel. Not easy to hold, not easy to put in a vise so the stem is perfectly vertical, and not easy to keep the boring bar from flexing with that kind of length. Glad it worked for you.

precision machining

John K Jordan

One thought is incredible precision is not needed. I've seen some fairly rough posts. A belt sander or angle grinder with the right wheel might work, with a little help from a file.

JKJ

Not everyone could, LOL

Dick Coers

Funny you should suggest that technique. A guy that used to be in our club gave his attempt to modify a Oneway curved rest to me. He thought I might be able to reuse the curved bar. So a grinder and file is not the option for everyone to remove a 1/4" of steel from a round bar. I keep it in a drawer, and your idea gave me a reason to dig it out. LOL