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aiming the bevel *LINK*

john lucas

This video I made many years ago to try and show how to control the spindle gouge when turning a bead. About 4 minutes in it really shows how you have to move the handle to control the cut. I show both rotating the tool and moving the handle and then do a pure push cut where you don't rotate the tool. This cut is so important in everything we do especially when turning bowls and vessels.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfZsH-Xprtg

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Lyle Jamieson

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Lyle Jamieson

Nice camera work to see the push cut. Did you see my heart shaped bowl video where I took the shot from behind the bowl looking through the voids?? I was looking at the back of the bevel and could show it in slow motion. https://youtu.be/djivmYCvqEI

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John K Jordan

Nice and simple! A few months ago I heard a guy say you make turning look easy in your videos!

The hardest thing I've found for beginners is to learn to coordinate the swing, rotation, and thrust. I liked the way Frank Penta teaches this (with a small round skew, but works for a gouge too) - with the right hand holding the handle, he extends his index finger along the tool shaft, at the 12-o'clock position for the beginning of the bead. Rotating the handle during the cut leaves the finger at the 3-o'clock position for the right hand side of the bead, basically feeling the rotation rather than watching it. Turning the other side he starts out pointing to 3-o'clock and ends up at 12-o'clock. (left hand turning is 12/9) This seems to help keep the rotation part of the dance coordinated with the other motions.

One suggestion for a video titled Turning a Stopper - perhaps show the method you use to mount the blank. There are lots of ways to hold the block but some people may not know how to begin. I usually prefer to hold a longer blank in a chuck and drill and turn so the hardware fits on the right side, but I know some people like roller pin chucks, threaded mandrels, etc.

JKJ

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john lucas

John That video was done to answer a question on how to turn the rounded portion at the end of a wine stopper. It wasn't intended to be a full video on how to make a wine stopper.

On that particular one I used a 3/8" #2 morse taper Collet to hold a home made pin chuck. That's still the method I use today for most wine stoppers unless they are threaded.

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#5

Good video as always.


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#6

This guy uses a different collet

john lucas

but it does show his pin chuck. My pin chuck has a dado milled into it and a rare earth magnet counter sunk into the rabbit. this keeps me from losing the pin when you pull the bottle stopper off . I tried one with a rabbit like his chuck but when you pull the stopper off it pulls the pin out. For a better description my pin chuck has a 1/8" full 3/8" portion at the beginning followed by a milled out section that holds the pin, then a full 3/8" for the rest of the shaft. I milled a 1/4" hole in the flat portion of the milled out area to hold the rare earth magnet.

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John K Jordan

Was that message supposed to include a link to a video? I may have gotten lost.

I've never made a pin chuck but it would be handy, especially on the tailstock end to steady a special handle blank after I drill a hole. I usually make these supports out of wood but a pin chuck would be better.

This is the way I usually make bottle stoppers, mostly since I like to turn a shallow recess for the Niles stopper and I find this easier to make it precise.


JKJ

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don stephan

Very clear and helpful explanation of continuing a cut on a wing. Thanks very much. If you ever come through Cincinnati I'll buy you a three or four way and a cheese coney at our very own Skyline chili!

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Here's the video

john lucas

He uses a Beal chuck about 4 minutes in. He starts off with the Drill chuck that has had the jaws ground round. I think Craft supplies sells that one. The Beal chuck works great but is a whole lot more expensive than a #2 morse taper collet. You can buy a whole set of #2 collets from very tiny up to 1/2" for the price of the Beal Collet.

You can use the Collets on the straight wooden dowels or with the Pin Chuck. The downside of using them with the dowels is you have to loosen the Drawbar and wack it with a mallet each time you want to pull the wide stopper out. Not a big deal, I did that for years. The Pin chuck stopped all of that.

I found a photo of my home made pin chuck.


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Lyle Jamieson

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Lyle Jamieson

Been-there-done-that, but I am always up for another at Skyline. Next best thing to being there for workshops is to do a remote, live, demo for your club. Id love to see you guys again.

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mikeee12345

Excellent video! You always do a great job in producing the video and the content.

Have you ever considered doing this full time? :-) :-) :-)

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Lyle Jamieson

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Lyle Jamieson

Thanks Mike, I have been making a living in the turning world since 1996. Yes, the video production is taking up much more of my time since I started doing both the shooting and editing myself.