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Taper Shank drill bits

#1

Taper Shank drill bits

John K Jordan

I've been using taper shank drill bits at the lathe. When I showed one to another turner it was a new concept. Rudy Lopez had a 1" diameter bit at the TAW symposium and used it to drill out things before hollowing. He had cut off about 1/2 of the bit and resharpened to make a much shorter bit but they can be used out of the box.

In case anyone is interested...

Taper shank drill bits have a morse taper shank and fit directly into the morse taper of the lathe tailstock or headstock.


The smaller diameter bits come in a MT#1 taper so an adapter is needed for an MT#2 tailstock or headstock. Fortunately, these are less than $10 - I found a hardened and ground adapter for about $4.

One advantage over standard drill bits is they are very quick to mount and use - just insert into the tailstock. The Jacobs chuck can stay in the drawer.


Since the overall length is shorter and the Jacobs chuck is eliminated, there is potentially more precision and less play. The tailstock can be much closer to the work. This would also allow drilling holes in the end of a longer spindle on a short lathe.


The bits themselves are more expensive. I bought some of the sizes I use the most. A few intermediate sizes are handy when drilling larger holes in more delicate work. I usually drill with 2 or 3 intermediate sizes before I drill a 3/4" or 1" diameter hole.

I found a company selling the smaller sizes at $1 each so I bought a bunch. The boxes look 20 years old so they were probably left over stock someone found in the warehouse.

For a more precise hole I start with a center drill or a spotting drill. A skew or parting tool will also work but I like the specialized bit better.

JKJ

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#2

Re: Taper Shank drill bits

Dave Paine

I love taper shank drill bits. Very easy and fast to use as you mention.

I keep an eye out at my flea market visits. This is the only way I can justify purchasing the taper shank bits.

FYI, if you see a messed up taper shank drill with a decent taper, this can be good to cut off the taper for a future jig. The drill bit hardening normally ends at the flute.

I know machinists will be aware of taper shank drill bits. I am not surprised wood workers may not be aware.

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#4

Re: Source John?

Hugh Buttrum

Jamie,

Try MSC. I used to get them from Enco.......but MSC bought out Enco.

I am sure the other machine tool companies carry them also.

Hugh

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#5

Re: Source John?

John C Lucas

Grizzly has them as well as most other places that sell machine tools

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#6

Re: Source John? *LINK*

Dave Paine

MSC purchased ENCO back in the late 90's but allowed ENCO to operate as a separate company until this August. Sadly the prices at MSC are a lot higher than ENCO.

I already miss ENCO........

Victor Machinery may be cheaper. Likely many other sources. I have not looked since I try to find these at flea markets.


http://www.victornet.com/subdepartments/HS-Taper-Shank-Drills-Inch/1210.html

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#7

Wholesale Tools

John K Jordan

I bought some from Wholesale Tools, including the $1 bits: https://www.wttool.com

Unfortunately, it appears they no longer offer the $1 bits. They were too good of a deal, I guess.

They do carry the MT1 to MT2 adapters, part number 1801-0005, and the handy 1" diameter MT2 drill bit, part number 0101-0370

Edit: I see Wholesale Tools is now selling an RDX import where they used to sell a Meda 1" bit but it is still HSS and I'm guessing it will be fine, especially for wood. The smaller bits are fairly reasonable in price. Here's the list

http://www.wttool.com/index/page/category/category_id/14388/

JKJ

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#8

Mike Stafford

Re: Taper Shank drill bits *LINK*

Mike Stafford

I bought a few #2 Morse taper shank drill bits from Craft Supplies. Boy, were they expensive. I started looking for alternatives and found DrillsandCutters.com

They have 9 pages of Morse taper shank drill bits.

I have bought a few things from these folks. They give good service but I don't think the quality of their product is the best.


Morse Taper Shank Drill Bits

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William Duffield

Thanks for the informative article, John. I'm in the process of writing one on turning handles for tanged tools (e.g., rasps), and have just finished taking all the pictures of the process. I had intended to include a section on using taper shank drill bits, but you've done it for me, saving me a lot of time and effort. When I post it, I'll just provide a link to your article at the appropriate place.

It should be noted that these bits can be used in the drill press as well, but the advantage of using them in the lathe tail stock is that they easily make a perfectly centered hole when held stationary and the handle stock turned in the head stock.

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#10

Caution on drilling handles...

John Kaner

Holding handle stock in the chuck and a drill bit in the t6ailstock seems like a win-win situation. And I've done it plenty of times. Made all kinds of handles...

Then the day it happened! Using my Jet mini with extended bed, Talon chuck with #1 extended jaws. I had turned one end round for better chucking. 1/4", 3/8" and then the final drilling with 1/2" and BOOM! Smacked in the face shield, broken florescent lamp and broken jaw slide on my Talon! Jaws were fine... Called Kevin at Oneway for new jaw slides and screws. Took apart the Talon and had some file work to do on the scroll. Lithium dry spray and reassembled with new slides. Jaws were fine and chuck was good again.

What went wrong? God knows and he was to busy to explain. Thank God it hit the top of the shield where it's the strongest...

When I do another handle, will use a Jorgensen wood screw clamp and drill off the side of my drill press. Using a square, should be able to get a straight hole.

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#11

Re: Caution on drilling handles...

John K Jordan

John, how drilling a hole broke and threw things like that baffles me unless the speed was too high and a long blank caught and torqued. Even then I can't imagine breaking a chuck!

For drilling a long blank, instead of chucking one end it might be easier to use the lathe as a horizontal drill press. (Turn the bit and push the wood into it, supported if needed by a something on the lathe bed.)

JKJ

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#12

Re: Caution on drilling handles...

John Kaner

John (JKJ) that's what Kevin thought, I over torqued it... Speed was mid range on VS. I remember advancing the 1/2" drill bit and Boom!

Wood was nice dried Tiger Maple and possibly the bit "grabbed" hold before starting cutting.

Accident? Like my Emergency Room Doc said "accidents are like Swiss Cheese, they're full of holes"...

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#13

Re: Caution on drilling handles...

William Duffield

When drilling into end grain, it is advisable to turn slowly, advance the tailstock and bit quickly, and back out and clear the dust often. Don't let the bit just turn in the bore hole without advancing. And especially, back it out quickly as soon as the dust stops being ejected. You want to minimize heat build-up. Not only does it stress the bit, but it also heats and super-dries the wood, often causing end checks.

Still, I can't fathom any reason for the failure you described except a previously damaged chuck. Had you dropped it at some time in the past? Inaccurate heat treating during manufacture is also a possibility.

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#14

Re: Caution on drilling handles...

John Kaner

No, not dropped or abused. I just can't remember what happened after I started advancing the 1/2" bit....

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Don Orr

Excellent tip John. I've been using them for years. I bought a box of 50 or so off the auction site and cleaned them up. They work great.