goblet foot diameter?

Re: goblet foot diameter?

Bill Blasic

Gary the one on the left look the best to me.

Re: goblet foot diameter?

john lucas

I like the smaller foot but the bead in the stem seems too large. The way I judge something like that is to draw a curve going down the goblet and out to the foot. The bead should usually just touch the concave of the curve. You want your eye to have a continuous curve. The same thing actually works with larger foot as well.

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John Veerkamp

somewhere in between. Slightly smaller, but the lower section thinner also.

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Dale Gillaspy

I like to make mine about 2/3 the diameter of the top. It seems to work for me. However, I like John's comment about the bead. It really weighs the stem down and looks out of proportion.

Re: goblet foot diameter?

Bill Howatt

My opinion:

The smaller base is too small and the other one is a bit heavy. The bead has to go or get reduced since it immediately draws my eye to it rather than the overall piece.

I can't find it in Russ' Corner but I thought he said that stems should not have embellishments. If so, it is his opinion but I tend to follow that advice.

Bill

Re: goblet foot diameter?

John K Jordan

Given just the two choices, I like the looks of the smaller foot better, not necessarily the diameter but the one on the left looks a little thick to me, especially with the thick bead at the very bottom. But you have enough wood to make it a little smaller if you want.

I do agree about the eliminating the bead on the stem, maybe not for this goblet but for the next one. One thing, when I hold a goblet I tend to hold it by the stem and the bead might be a bit in the way.

Another nit - I like the fillets on the coves between the stem and the foot and top. Just wondering, how would the upper fillet look with less of an angle, like the lower one?

I think the flared bowl design is interesting. For some reason I tend to make all my goblets closed a bit at the top instead of flared out. I think I'll try one like yours but maybe a little shorter.

JKJ

Re: goblet foot diameter?

mike peace

I agree with the comments about the bead size being a bit large. I like the size foot on the left but would prefer a crisper edge rather than a rounded edge on the very bottom. Chalices, goblets for religious purposes, almost always have the bead which does seem to make holding it easier. I guess centuries of practical experience has refined their shape.

Re: goblet foot diameter?

Craig Daymon

I'd go with in between.

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Keith tompkins

I just finished giving a class at Peter's Valley. A couple of glass-blowers were checking out the various , and the work being done. One of them picked up my demo goblet, and rolled it across the workbench. She stated a test of a well done goblet is that it will roll in a straight line; the foot should be the same diameter as the largest diameter of the bowl.

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GaryG in MD

I've been otherwise occupied today but will get back to this in depth as soon as I can. I appreciate everyone's comments and will reply.

I have lots of thoughts, but one, for sure, is that the diameter of the fillet is too small to be the foot of the goblet. In retrospect, I believe that was a bad idea. I'll post some numbers for interest. Keith's comment is very interesting.

I might add (should have earlier) that the foot was never intended to be that "thick" -- it's still on the lathe on a jam chuck, and I didn't want to make the final thinning base cut until I worked out the diameter question.

The bead is a matter for another post in the near future.

Re: goblet foot diameter?

Jim K from Trappe, PA

I never heard that rule before, so I pulled out some stemware glasses to see if they followed that rule. The first five on the left did not. The bases are smaller than the goblet diameter. The two on the right have bases that are equal to the goblet diameter, and they rolled straight. My next test will be to fill each goblet appropriately, drink the contents, and then see if they roll differently.

I'm all for the experimental method

GaryG in MD

Good man, Jim.

I've got a collection too. ;-)

Practice makes perfect.

The bottom line appears to be that there is no standard.

It's up to us to decide what looks good.

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Jorge

Gary,

I have trouble with that short stem, the foot on the left one may look right if the stem is a bit longer.