Beads in the morning-just a teaser

Re: Beads in the morning-just a teaser

Jerry Maske

John,

Any chance you'll be going to the Quincey Show in October? I'd sure like to see how you do those beads so beautifully.

I've got the Thompson gouge and use it more than most any other tool, but I sure can't turn beads like those.

Nice Work.

Jerry

Re: Beads in the morning-just a teaser

john Lucas

I've never heard of the Quincy show. Where is it. I've been playing with improving my bead quality. When I learned to turn beads you stared with the gouge laying on top of the proposed bead, and then rotated the tool over. This method left the nose of the tool doing most of the cutting. The wood is coming over the tip at about 90 degrees. Not the cleanest of cuts.

I grind my detail gouge using the same setting as my bowl gouge only pushed forward in the V arm of the ONeway system. This gives me a grind that looks like a bowl gouge with wings.

What I've started doing is starting the cut with either the left side or right side of the nose about 10:30 or 11 oclock. Then as I rotate the tool I continue down the side of the gouge so the left wing goes into the V. This is more of a shear cut and leaves an almost polished bead. I repeat on the other side starting about 1 oclock and rotating over.

The same is sort of true when turning coves. In stead of finishing a cove with the flute straight up and ending with the nose cutting the bottom, I keep the tool slightly rotated so the finish at the bottom is cut with either the 10:30 or 1:30 part of the gouge tip. A much cleaner bottom.

Re: Beads in the morning-just a teaser

Jerry Maske

Sorry John, I forgot which board I was on. The Quincey Show is the AAW portion of the Segmented Wood Turners. They do a show like the big AAW show but only every other year. This year it's in Quincey, MA, just outside Boston. Since I live along the coast of Maine, finding a show of this caliber in New England is a refreshing event that I wouldn't miss. Four days with some of the Giants in the Segmented and Bowl from a Board world. Yeah, kind of a niche in the Wood Turning world, but everyone has to have something to keep them out of the bars at night.

I'll look over your instructions and see what I can come up with. I have the One Way Wolverine rig and a Jet grinder with a CBN wheel on both ends. Sharpening isn't a problem. Surprisingly, before I got that rig up and learned to use it, I'd gotten pretty good using a belt sander. And I still use it for Skew sharpening.

Thanks for the instructions, and take a look at the Segmented Woodturning page over on the AAW home page. You might get a surprise.

Jerry

Re: Beads in the morning-just a teaser *LINK*

john Lucas

I would love to go to that symposium. Not going to happen thought. I'm getting back into segmented work this year because I always liked it. Here is my sharpening jig. When sharpening the spindle gouge I now use just a spacer block that moves the tool forward instead of raising it up like in this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbggxj2kgyc

Re: Sounds like a new instructional video coming??

I did some Beads Yesterday

jake niedling

John - I turned a 14" diameter walnut plate yesterday and hand turned some beads on the front and back. I used a 3 point tool to do these. It helped dress up the plate which was needed. I still need to reverse turn the foot and finish.

Re: I did some Beads Yesterday

john Lucas

Jake Remind me to show you my bead turning technique for platters using a gouge. It's unique. Nothing wrong with the 3 point tool. I use it when I'm shaky because it's a no fail technique.

Re: I did some Beads Yesterday

Jerry Maske

John,

You need to show BOTH of us your technique. Turning a bead that nicely with a gouge may make you famous, if not rich.

Al Stirit uses the same double bevel method you do. Took a class with him two years back and had a great time. He's another one of the type that truly marches to his own drummer.

Thanks for the help, and if you ever do a video of how you do those beads, please make sure I hear about it.

Jerry

Re: Beads in the morning-just a teaser

John K Jordan

>starting the cut with either the left side or right side of the nose

>about 10:30 or 11 oclock. Then as I rotate the tool I continue

>down the side of the gouge so the left wing goes into the V.

I think it's time for a new video! Even 60 seconds might be enough to teach the technique.

JKJ

Re: I did some Beads Yesterday

Alan Dick

Sounds like a great idea for a video .... hint hint

Re: Beads in the morning-just a teaser

Brad Vietje

I think Wally's secret beading tool is the same as yours, only more so -- experience & practice!

Safe spinning,

Brad Vietje

Newbury, VT

Re: Beads in the morning-just a teaser

john Lucas

You hit it right with the More/so. Wally has way more so that I do.

Re: Beads in the morning-just a teaser

Tom Albrecht

What is the diameter of the spindle in the photo? (Nice work)