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Potential chuck problems

#1

Potential chuck problems

john lucas

About 5 years ago or maybe 6 I bought a Grizzly copy of the vicmarc 100 chuck. I already owned 2 and wanted to see if the Grizz was any good at about half the price. Then in 2013 I bought a Chuck Plus copy of the Vicmarc. The Grizzly has had what I thought was a rough spot where it got kind of tight about halfway open for just a turn of the key and then went away. This has been going on for a while. the other day the Chucks plus started doing the same thing.

I took them apart for cleaning and inspection and found that the pinion gear was worn pretty badly on the fat end with no wear whatsoever on the narrow end. Interestingly both chucks had exactly the same wear marks and it seems to be getting worse. I took all 3 Vicmarc's apart and there doesn't seem to be any where whatsoever. The pinion gear almost looks new on them.

I'm going to write the companies and see if I can get replacement gears. It would seem a shame to throw the chucks away after another year or so of wear. So as of right now I would no longer recommend these chucks to anyone. Spend the extra money and get the real thing. It shows in the long run. One of my Vicmarcs is well over 12 years old and has a huge amount of use since it was my only chuck for a long time.

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#2

Not surprising at all.

Geoff Whaling

John,

What you say does not surprise me at all. The inner workings of some of the cheap knock-offs "don't look right" when you are familiar with how a Vicmarc chuck should looks like inside.

The local wood turning club has a number of VM120's that would have to be over 20 years old by now. They aren't treated very well but they just keep on going.

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#3

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Mark Wollschlager

I guess I have not used mine enough to wear the gears.

Ordered the axminister sk100 yesterday.

Hopefully the quality is there.

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#4

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John K Jordan

John, I know you don't do this but a word of warning to those who use excessive force to tighten a chuck.

I once bought some used chucks from a club member. He either had Charles Atlas training or used a cheater bar - not only was there wear on one of the gears but others had chuck housings so warped it took me hours of rework before they would work smoothly. At least the chucks were real cheap. :-)

All my chucks are Technatool and probably not the highest quality out there. But even the chucks I have been using for 15 years still work smoothly and have no detectable wear.

My take is if a chunk of wood requires using a cheater bar to hold the work securely perhaps a different chuck or jaw set or holding technique might be appropriate. I suspect this gentleman just thought if tight is good, REALLY tight is REALLY good.

JKJ

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#5

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john lucas

I tighten mine up pretty darn securely. I mean I don't really hog down on it but I tighten it pretty hard. Again, there isn't any where on my 3 vicmarc chucks but both of the aftermarket ones have the same torn up edge on the pinion gear. Had to have been made in the same factory with the same incorrect angle on the gears. Both of those chucks are much newer than my Vicmarc's.

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#6

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John K Jordan

Quality, quality, and lack thereof.

It might be nice if the Vicmarc gears were interchangeable with the knockoff chucks!

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#7

Jesper, Denmark

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Jesper, Denmark

I know I am in the minority here, but i am a strong believer in Stronghold chucks. My oldest one is more than 20 years old, has never been disassembled and works just like when it came out of the box. I prefer the serrated jaws, but as Oneway now also makes swallowtail jaws for the Stronghold, there is no reason not to use them.

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#8

Minority, maybe; Alone, no!


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#9

My oldest Vicmarc is over 15 years