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Shear Scraping and End Grain Problems

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Shear Scraping and End Grain Problems

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Shear Scraping and End Grain Problems

Wally Dickerman

>End grain tearout is a problem that plagues new turners, and sometimes experienced turners alike. It needn't be a problem.

My first advice is to cut with the grain whenever possible. Cutting against the grain will tear out the unsupported wood fibers, resulting in a very rough surface that is difficult to get rid of.

Shear scraping is a great way to eliminate a lot of sanding, expecially with heavier grits. There are dedicated shear scrapers on the market, but I usually prefer to use my bowl gouge. The gouge should be side ground, Ellsworth style, and be very sharp. Basically, it's done with the flute facing the wood, the top cutting edge almost touching the wood, and scraping with the lower cutting edge. drawing the tool handle first. On the outside of a bowl, scrape above center with the handle lowered. The tool should be cutting at an angle of 20 to 40 degrees. For best results, cut with the grain, and take very light cuts. You should be getting small feathery shavings.The damaged wood surface, end grain tearout, etc. should disappear. Inside a bowl, draw the tool toward the rim. Guard against letting the top edge get too far from the wood, or the tool will dig in. Adding oil to the wood makes the process even more effective. I use Danish tung oil, the same oil that I use for finishing, but mineral oil can be used. After shear scraping, I almost never use sandpaper any heavier than 150. I often am able to start with 180 or 220.

A better and easier job of sanding can be done in a shorter length of time when using oil. Just apply the same oil to the wood as was used for shear scraping. Some turners use oil with all grits, but I only use it with the heavier grits. A plus when using oil is that there isn't any sanding dust in the air.

Wally

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David

>On behalf of newbies - thanks very much for your advise. Can't wait to get my next blank on the lathe!

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Rick in Colgate, Wi

>Thanks for the timely advice Wally!

I'm in the process of making hamburger out of a perfectly good boxelder blank due to tearout. I will try what you suggest and see if I cant salvage the bowl.

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Wally Dickerman

>Rick, let us know how it turned out.

Wally

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Box Elder

tek-Brunswick, Ohio

>I've had a tough time with end grain on Bow Elder also. It seems prone to tear out and it is such a pretty wood too! Let us know if the techniques help. Sanding sealer cut back by 1/2 with lacquer thinner and allowed to dry seemed to help me some.

Tom

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John Lucas

>Wally

I use that technique on the outside of my bowls and on the inside of shallow bowls but I can't always get the gouge at a shear angle so I switched to my round nose scraper. I hold it at a 45 degree angle and keep the handle really high. then I pull it across the bowl always trying to go downhill on the grain. You do need to cut with the lower 1/3 or so or the blade. If you cut above the center line of the cutting edge you can get one heck of a catch. Keeping the handle high reduces the chance of a catch to zero. I often demonstrate this technique without the tool rest to show how safe it is.

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A Big Thank You

Stuart Johnson

>Wally and others have described this cut several times and I never fully understood what they were saying. Sort of a "I understand the meaning of each word but not the sentence."

Finally, along came Bill Grumbine's video and it all fell in place. I don't know how so many that are now sharing with us managed on their own.

To all of you a very big THANK YOU.

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George Van in WI

>I was at a Ray Key demo yesterday. Ray demonstrated reducing tear out on the box insides using paste wax to soften the fiber. It also worked well.

I tried your oil finish tip with a spalted yellow birch bowl after reading this today and it worked very well!

Thanks for another idea Wally.

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Keith Tompkins

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Keith Tompkins

>Thanks Wally, great info as usual!

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Thanks, Wally!

Carole in VA

>Between your explanation and Bill's video, maybe I can get it to work on a problem spot in a maple bowl I am working on. Going to try the oil thing.

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gary clarke

>Walley, thanks a lot for your always informative turning tips.

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