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Setting Goals and achieving them

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Setting Goals and achieving them

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Setting Goals and achieving them

Russ Fairfield

>There was some discussion started on goals and achievement in another thread. I sent some comments to Keith and he asked that I post them here, so here they are.

A discussion of setting artistic and personal goals, and how we achieve them, will be a much needed addition to the academic side of woodturning.

There are several downsides to achieving our highest artistic and personal goals in the art. There is too often a price to pay for fame and achievement. The road to fame is not always an easy one.

The popularity of a "signature work" can limit our exploration of other things; and the pressures of time and energy that are required to meet commissions, schedules, and deadlines can take all of the fun out of our art and leave little time for doing anything creative. Sometimes we have to be careful of what we wish for.

There are a few artists among us who have solved this time problem by contracting someone else to do all or a part of their work for them. It gives a whole new meaning to "signature work" when all they have to do is sign it and sell it. I know of two well known decorative artists who don't turn their own basic forms. One of them has since learned to turn their own forms, but still has others doing it for them because of the time required. They feel that having to turn their own "canvas" takes time away from their "art". We are always concerned about plagarism, but I think that the cheating, if that is what it is, would be a more worthy topic of discussion.

Another thing that I often see missing in the quest for the "art", is the knowledge of the basic skills that let us make our thoughts into reality. I have seen too many new woodturners, with excellent natural talents for form and the "art", achieve instant recognition and acclaim, only to soon fall by the wayside because they never took the time to learn how to turn wood. Having both the art and the skills is the key to a lasting success, and a combination that is shared by those we see at the top. Most aspiring artists miss this point. Those that see the connection are successful. Those that don't, aren't.

Then there is what I call, "The politics of artistic achievement". This is the having to "suck up" and be friendly to the right people, taking a class (sometimes more than one) from the right people, or doing whatever it takes to be in the right place at the right time.

Never discount the value of a "benefactor", but this will require positioning ourselves so they can discover us. Too many woodturners, regardless of the quality of their work, have yet to discover that THEY will not be discovered when nobody can see what they are doing.

And, sometimes the road to fame is lined with our detractors who act out of spite, jealousy, or whatever personal reasons of their own.

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Keith Tompkins

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Keith Tompkins

>Thanks so much Russ. It's funny, but every thing you mentioned in your post I have personally experienced. You have provided enough ammunition to write a book!

I too think this would be a great topic for the chat, and maybe even a magazine article. You know you hit a nerve when the personal e-mails start coming in droves.

I need to write it all down....er , after I finish that article I already started, and after I finish that last order...oops, demo this weekend....new exhibit? sure, I'll start a piece right away. My mom called? Can't see her this week! See Russ, it's easy if you're organized like me. LOL!

Seriously, this may be a great topic to explore!

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You said it right, Russ !!

Fred in NC

>In "Another thing that I often see missing in the quest for the "art", is the knowledge of the basic skills that let us make our thoughts into reality. . ."

Can't decorate a thin form unless it is turned first!

Ah, the olden days of apprenticeships. One had to sweep the chips off the floor for a year before cutting the first board. Wasted time? not in my opinion. Those with a desire to learn used that time for observing the workers, and asking questions. Walk before you run!!

Instant messaging, instant mashed potatoes, instant experts.... with the internet anybody can find enough information to pretend being an expert in anything. Bah, humbug !!!

On the other hand, there is enough information available that those who have no access to a teacher can learn by doing. Not the best way in my opinion. Unfortunately I am one of them. Some succeed. Some succeed too fast. Some, like me, have decided to take the slow route.

What I do does not go in the galleries. But when I spend time doing some turnings, I know there is money waiting for me. That will pay for my tools and other expenses while I learn. Art will be added when I finally learn how to turn.

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David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>Wow, that was an awful lot in one post Russ! Much to chew on; some things I understand and see as problems, but I have much to learn. Life is too busy right now to pursue much marketing with my bowls, but I am enjoying learning right now, continuing to work on tool technique, and finishing - two never-ending topics it seems! Thanks for the post.

David

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Patrick

>While I suppose many of those observations carry differently between the hobbyist and professional, the one "universal" I tend to gravitate towards is the basic skill set and understanding so one can take what lies in the artistic mental image and transfer it to the medium. However, don't let the mastery of the basics cloud your mind in limiting possibilities -- it's ultimately what drives one to turn / woodwork, the creation process.

As a newly addicted turner, it takes a great deal of discipline on my part to avoid the "Big" project in exchange for continuing smaller projects to improve my understanding wood and how it turns, what tools and grinds can do for cutting, various techinque, and recovering from mistakes.

Aside from that, your artistic ability is severly limited by "serving a master" whether that master is your time management or whatever thrusts you into a rat race of sort. Seems this may be unavoidable as a professional and unneccessary as a hobbyist. As a hobby, I would think if your seeking the creative processes to escape, for brief moments, from the rat races you must enter to feed the family, keep the roof over your head etc... allowing that one area to become contaminated is counterproductive...which is why nothing in my shop is for sale and no rat races or issues pertaining to such are allowed for discussion. IMHO, if I fail to defend that, I might as well not do it at all.

Just a few hobbyist thoughts

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Wow

Mike Schwing from Md.

>Russ, you really said some stuff. For me in particular, this has value...

"Never discount the value of a "benefactor", but this will require positioning ourselves so they can discover us. Too many woodturners, regardless of the quality of their work, have yet to discover that THEY will not be discovered when nobody can see what they are doing."

I have been by several people "a shameless self promoter". Thank goodness, because no one is going to do it for me. You could easily say I tend to post my work in too many places, and you could be right. BUT, I have that "benefactor" that you mention as well. Specifically because I took a chance of posting work somewhere I didn't really feel qualified - I caught the eye of a serious collector. His continued purchases of my work have served to increase my attention to detail and have allowed me to explore other directions. All of this occured because I recognize that nobody is going to see my work if nobody sees my work.

Also, having people examine your work up close and in person is very different than posting pictures on the internet. The experience of having real collectors inspect your work changes the way you look at it, too. Once people started looking at my work in person I paid extra attention to the way it really looked. A flaw I could hide by not photographing that side can not be ignored in real life. I would still be accepting those flaws in my work had it not been for a vist from Dinyar and Eileen Duffy. And now the thought that I might have work in the AAW instant gallery pushes that issue even further.

The worst thing that can happen from too much exposure is that nobody notices. The best thing is that someone special may.

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John Lucas

>Russ

I've been watching the art world for at least 10 years now and I agree with everything you said. Especially about self promotion and setting yourself up to be seen.

I've seen too many artists go full time and then it turns into a job and they no longer like it.

One thing that you didn't mention is being a good business person. In the photography field and I think probably the art field as well, I've seen good talented people fail because of poor business skills. I've seen mediocre photographers succeed because they had good business skills.

If I were to counsel a new woodturner who wanted to be a pro I would tell them to learn the basics so that they could produce what they can design and then I would tell them to take a good business class.

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Re: Wow

David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>Boy, there's a lot in your post too Mike. You guys certianly are spinning my wheels.

Thanks.

David

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Glenn Madsen

>Being a good business person keeps me a hobbyist woodworker. And that is a good thing.

The world rewards me well in my profession. Art rewards me in my studio/shop. I chose three decades ago to be an artist for my own enjoyment, and also have a nice home and a good, well-educated family. It was a good choice.

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Bill Grumbine, Kutztown PA

>Greetings all

There is a lot of good stuff here in this thread. I was not sure at first if I had anything to contribute other than to say I read it! But, being that I have an opinion (SWMBO says I have an opinion on everything), I thought I would write some of it here.

I think part of this discussion can be found in the art and craft debate. I do not seek to resurrect that one right this minute, but I think it need to be considered in light of what Russ wrote. Do I want to make my mark as a craftsman or as an artist? Many craft pieces find their value in utility, whereas many art pieces find their value in...well...uhh, did I say I was a craftsman? Art pieces have an artificial value assigned to them by the community of people who have the means and the desire to participate. Arty craft stuff falls into the same category. My $100 bowl will not do a better job than a $5.00 plastic bowl from Walmart, although it does it "nicer". But I digress.

One of my goals has been, and continues to be, perfecting my craft. I like turning utilty items, utility being defined as something that has a practical use. A bowl will hold food, a table leg will hold the bowl, so on and so forth. Now if I choose to make that bowl a little fancier so that people will want it instead of a plastic bowl, then I am working on becoming known for the arty end of utility items.

In my perspective, people who become known for their craft become known for their efforts through the acclaim of others, while artists tend to more self promotion. This may not be entirely accurate across the board, but it has been my experience. I also do not say that there is anything wrong with either path, as long as one can still look at one's face in the mirror every day.

In either case, I think that as we progress along the path we choose, the choice is gradually removed from us and placed in the hands of others, at least if we want to continue on that particular path. For example, I have some arty ideas in my head. They have been there for years. For all I know, they may never make it out, simply because I have not had the time to devote to them. One reason is the possibility that someone else might pick up on them and develop them faster than I can. Another (if I am totally honest about it) is that they may flop big time, and I will suffer the reproach of myself for wasting a bunch of time that might have been better spent.

But a big part of the reason I have no time for them is because other people have gotten the idea in their heads that they should come and see me as a teacher. I like that for a lot of reasons. First, on that most visceral of levels, it fattens my wallet. But on a loftier level, I really enjoy teaching other people how to do this stuff. By giving in to the demands and pressures of that group, I allow them to shape my path for me, even though I set out on that path by my own choice. If, as Russ says, I chose the art path, my path becomes dictated by those who want me to produce that kind of work.

Does this change it from my goal to the goal of someone else? Have I sacrificed anything, to go back to Russ' comments? I think the answer is yes, I have sacrificed something, but willingly. And, it is only someone else's goal if I don't like where it is taking me. The fact that others help to shape that goal for me does not take it from me. I can always get off and start over. I might not even have to go all the way back to the beginning, seeing as how I have already made some progress in the field. But much of that progress is in the basic stuff, and I think that anyone who is going to have any staying power in the art or craft field needs to develop those basics, if only to prevent being nothing more than a flash in the pan. I also think that our goals are something that we need to reevaluate from time to time to see if we are satisfied with where we are going.

Bill

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Arch

>Glenn, Me too. I wonder if we had the same mother.

Turn to Safety, Arch

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Glenn Madsen

>Well, Arch is a name that runs in my family. It's my father's name, was his uncle's, and a middle name for mt third son, and his first son as well.

To be blessed with the talent, skills and education to have a career that allows for raising a family, well, and to do it in relative wealth, is something that comparatively few in the world enjoy. And I have enjoyed it immensely.

At making woodchips, I'm an enthusiastic practitioner, no better than middle of the pack. But, as I stand at the lathe, spinning shavings onto the floor, the thought often occurs to me: This is about as much fun as one can have with their pants on!

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David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>Excellent post Bill! Wonderful read for sure - and read is all I can do in such a thread, for I am truly only at the beginning of all this. I have dreams and some ideas of art, some measure of enjoyment I've found in the little bit of teaching I've been able to do, and just a love of working in a shop, as a craftsmen perfecting what I enjoy doing. So, I do have my own tentative ideas about where I'm going, but I think I can see that the end result may be far from where I'm headed.

Thanks.

David

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