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Wet Turned - No Alcohol

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Wet Turned - No Alcohol

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Wet Turned - No Alcohol

georgetroy

>You don't need to wait for your wood to dry. Nada. Soaks can lead to failure and disappointment in my opinion. Turn the wood down to approx. 3/16" all in one go. Keep it sealed at the ends. The exterior is sealed before you turn the inside. Use lacquer and wipe off. It dies quick. Sometimes I will drill a hole to start. You can have great success with the right wood. Showing 5 bowls all done from black locust. For all you non belivers here are pics. Bowls were done pretty fast it is the finishing where the time is. 2 Weeks of seal,finish,dry,sand,dry,seal and finsh dry.


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Doug

>George - Do you mean you seal with lacquer?

After 2 weeks do you then sand by hand? I never seem to get the green wood cut smooth enough - then after drying I find it difficult to sand. The only (green) black locust I have turned became very hard after drying and warped heavily.

I do like the black locust bowls.

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georgetroy

>I seal with lacquer. My cuts are pretty smooth and I do sheer scrape. Sometimes I will use a sanding sealer wipe off and make a fresh cut. I just use the lacquer one time. An inertia sander works good for me. I leave the bowl mounted on a chuck most of the finishing. In many cases I have 3 lathes going and or chucks with mounted work. I wet sand with urethane oil starting with 180 wet and dry and go through the grits on up to 600. The wood is still wet each time to some degree and must be wet sanded with the urethane oil. The finishing slows down the drying to reduce cracking. It just doesn't get much of a chance to crack. Sometimes I will reverse chuck, if not I will use a thin parting tool at an angle and part off. If work is left on the lathe then it must be sealed and wraped in plastic. The techniques are about the same for vases and urns.


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RevDoug

>Nice job George.

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DWFII

>George,

Very nice work.

Although I am not entirely clear on the process--the steps you are going through--I have a couple of questions, if I may...

Seems like you take everything down very thin. Do you get any, minimal, or...presumably not...a lot of distortion? If so, wouldn't it be hard to correct if your walls are already 3/16"?

Do you turn any bowls or vessels with thicker walls?

I wish you would write an article detailing how you do this. Each step, each oil/sanding sealer/lacquer, and the effort, or waiting time, involved before you proceed to the next step.

Sure does make a feller think. Thanks.

DW

In the High Desert of Central Oregon

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John K Jordan

>DW,

If you haven't seen it, the book Turning Green Wood has good instruction.

JKJ in East TN

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DWFII

>John,

When I first started thinking about turning seriously, I took Turning Green Wood out of the library. Not knowing enough (still don't...who does?) I probably didn't give it enough attention. I bought Richard Raffin's book shortly thereafter, based upon my library loans, but looks like a trip to Amazon dot com is in order.

Thanks...

DW

In the High Desert of Central Oregon

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#8

Brad Vietje

Absolutely !

Brad Vietje

>George,

I concur entirely. I do this all the time, and though I haven't used lacquer on wet wood, I have wet sanded with Urethane Oil just as you have. Yours are very nice bowls, too !

I'm left with a question, though ... are you sure that's Black Locust and not Honey Locust or one of the other Locusts ? My Bl. Locust has deeply furrowed, corky sorta bark well over an inch thick. I've seen Honey Locust with fairly thin dark gray bark -- could this be what you have ?

Thanks for posting this George.

Safe spinning,

Brad Vietje

Thetford, VT

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georgetroy

>No wood expert here. The wood came from the local golf course. The super. said it was black locust. The locust trees there have these hugh thorns many 3" long. I have honey locut in my back yard so I don't that is it. Thanks for the feedback. GT

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Brad Vietje

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Brad Vietje

>Thanks, George.

They might BOTH be Honey Locust -- H. Locust usually has those nasty thorns (and I'd love to get some for decorative work, BTW), and there is a hybrid called Morel or Morrel or something like that, and they are thorn-less.

Safe Spinning,

Brad Vietje

Thetford, VT

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Re: thorns !

Wood Spinner

>Brad, Like the name.

I have some Mesquite trees with giant thorns. The Indians used to use them for sewing. How many do you want?

Send your address to me via E-Mail and I will send you some.

Good turning and be safe

Bill in Casa Grande, AZ.

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