PM 3520A is ordered! Thank you all but...

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Ron in Drums PA

>You Said "who can barley contain himself waiting for the new toy"

Time to celebrate!

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chris K

>Thanks Ron,

But celebration time will be when its in place and Im making yard long shavings.

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Mike Schwing from Md.

>Mine came fully assembled on a pallet built around the dimensions of the feet. It had a cardboard box on top that the neighbor's kids used as a fort. The lathe was was bolted on to the pallet.

You could remove the head and tailstock, and the banjo to reduce the weight, but The headstock is too heavy and massive for one person, and awkward with two.

As I mentioned to you - a moving company managed to get the whole thing down the stairs, on the pallet, in one piece.

Congrats! But now you're going to have to start finding your own wood - what I already gave you was the small stuff I was willing to part with.

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Jerry Whitaker

>Chris,

Mind came bolted down to a pallet with the headstock, banjo and tailstock all in place. The guard, the faceplate, knock-out bar, the spur and live center (OneWay) and tool rest was packed separately and was fixed to the pallet. There was a double cardboard box over the whole thing...I mean really super heavy duty (close to an inch thick) and there was metal strapping around the whole thing. I was impressed as to how it was all packaged up. Be sure and request a delivery truck with a lift if you do not have a loading dock situation. Some of the truckers will just drop it down as close to where you want it as they can get their truck and haul butt. The driver that brought mine wheeled it all the way into my garage with a pallet jack. Then I had to get it to my shop at the back of the house later. I really believe the thing weighs more than they say that it does. I removed the headstock, banjo and tailstock. Then I got four guys to move it back to my shop. (I had just had foot surgery and could not assist) We used 2x4's under the bed to walk it back there and they were struggling a little. Then we moved the other pieces and reassembled it. If you need to get it down into a basement, you might could slide it down steps on pieces of plywood. Anyway, it you have to get it ino a difficult place, you might want to remove the legs from the bed. Good luck and have fun.

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MP Wall

>I got mine a little over a year ago. It was bolted onto a very solid pallet with the cardboard surround. My brother and I broke it down at their wharehouse loading gate and lowered it down into my blazer piece by piece. I carried the headstock from the gate to the car 18-20 feet and it was a load (I thought it was 100 lbs). Rest is easily handled by 2 guys. When I got it home I carried the headstock from the car into the house and down the stairs to the basement in one go and nearly killed myself. I later called Osolnik's to ask about the headstock weight and he said it was 150 lbs not 100. Rest is easily handled by a handtruck and two guys. If you take the ways to the place where you are going to place the lathe and turn them upside down and bolt the legs on and then roll it over (on the cardboard or pallet helps to keep dings to a minimum) it works a lot easier. Good luck with the move. You will surely enjoy the lathe. MP Wall

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chris K

>Oh Mike,

I know that you dont like turning that black walnut anyway...

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John Lucas

>Chris

The headstock is 157lbs and very awkward. I forgot the weight of the bed but I seem to remember 250lbs. Tkhe legs were 87lbs apiece. My friend and I muscled it into the basememt. I would not recomment that. I think a good 2 wheeler would be the way to go. You could remove the headstock with the help of a friend and roll it in. Then tilt the legs and bed up on end and set them on the 2 wheeler and roll them in. It's pretty hard to get the legs back on if you remove them. We did it that way. I set the bed on 2 saw horses and then we tried to lift the legs to install them. Quite challenging.

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Mike Schwing from Md.

>I still say you can't beat renting a moving company! They're bonded in case they drop or break something, and other than my wallet being a little thinner, my back feels great.

I decided at the age of 30 I was too old to continue asking my buddies to help me move, and that if they asked me I'd offer to help pay for movers.

I realize that I don't have any tuitions to pay so this might be a bit more do-able for me, but it sure is nice.

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Ron in Drums PA

>Yep, I agree with that 100%

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Anthony

>Took all 700 lbs down my basement shop alone.Took one of those large buckets with the rope handles,the ones they use for holding beer or soda for parties.I put an old comforter in it and layed the headsstock in there.The tailstock is lighter.Rolled the lathe over on a piece of MDF,and removed both legs.which are easy to carry.I used a refrigeration hand truck lined with the comforter and took it down the stairs.

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Barry Turner

>Take a deep breath and have a cold one or two. I waited five months for my Stubby. Your PM will be here before you know it. I guarantee it will be worth the wait. By all means remove the headstock to lighten it up. And the tailstock, toolrest banjo, legs, motor, etc. I did all of the above and then some on my Stubby. I felt like I was building it from scratch in my shop. Actually there's not a better way to get up-close-and-personally acquainted with your new machine. Congrats.

Barry

Now I know who to ask when moving big stuff...

Jay in TX (formerly Ohio)

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Barry Turner

>That just goes to show you what you can do when you give it a little thought and think through your moves in advance. My wife and I moved a 300 lb. air compressor into my shop last Summer. (She has a bad back and just watched.) Had those guys at Home Depot lay it down in the bed of my truck on a large piece of cardboard to protect it from scratches and dings. Backed the truck up to my shop door, grabbed the cardboard and slid the compressor back to where it was teetering over the tailgate. Then I flipped it up and onto my shop floor. Piece of cake.

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Jim Putnam

>I also unloaded mine from my pickup alone by taking off the headstock and tailstock then moved the legs and bed as bolted on the pallet. It took a lot of blocking and a couple of hours but I was in no hurry. An engine hoist would have helped a lot. My lathe went directly into my garage shop. If I were moving into a basement shop, I'd consider taking the legs off and moving it completely broken down.

The motor comes off of the headstock easily - just a couple of bolts and three wires as I recall. I did take extra care to label the wires. With that, the headstock is not too hard to move.

By the way, I really do like the lathe. The biggest problem is finding time to run it. The second biggest problem is cleanup - you sure can make a lot of shavings with this machine. Enjoy!!

Waste Control & Turnign Stock Managment

Richard Allen

>My God Chris you have got it BAD! A month and a half ago you were talking about your Delta Midi and hopeing to get a bigger lathe within a year. Well I guess 2 months is within a year.

Here are a couple of things to work on while you are waiting for the new lathe to arrive.

Waste control.

Turning stock managment.

The Powermatic will let you make a LOT more waste than the midi. And that waste will travel longer distances in your shop than you ever thought posible. With the increase in waste production you need to have a plan for hauling and disposing of the waste.

There is a HUGE difference between haveing stock sitting around waiting for it's turn on a midi and stock waiting for a chance to spin on the Powermatic. Think about where you are going to store all the BIG wood so that you can be inspired to turn a hunk of wood when the mood strikes. You also need a place to store green roughed out wood that is drying.

Neither of these are much of an issue with a midi.

Differnt people deal with these issues in different ways. Having a plan now can make the transition to the new lathe more focused on what you want to turn instead of how you are goign to deal with it.

Congradulation.

P.S. I am in agreement on the pay people to move the lathe.

His problem is..and he didn't tell you

Mike Schwing from Md.

>His problem is that he's been to my house too many times for demos and lessons - and GEEZ, I dunno, who was is that suggested I get a PM 3520 - THAT WOULD BE YOU RICHARD! HAHAAHA!

Chris didn't tell you that after running my Stihl Pro saw that he ran out and got a brand new Husky 350, too! He's got it bad'r than most! (and probably a better wife, too)

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chris K

>Thank you all for the huge response.

OK call me dumb subborn cheap whatever. I tend to move my machines myself, no one will care for them the way I do. 7 months ago I moved my entire shop 20 miles with a two wheeler and my dad (wished he lived closer to help me on this one). My move included

1956 Cast iron Unisaw

1948 Heavy duty shaper

1958 8" jointer with cast iron base

A 12" parks planer

And alot of "lighter" things.

Now the lathe is likely the heaviest of all these things (700 total) but, I had the break it down into pieces methodology to it. I think its safe and does get me intimatly aquainted with the machine.

My shop is in the garage so Its going to be much easier to handle the little moving I have to do. I have two scenarios that thorugh my own thought and great ideas given here I think it will be easy.

If they can send a liftgate and bring a pallet jack we can move it to where it will rest and be fine.

If I have to pick it up at a freight dock I can break it down fairly easily and put it into my SUV. I have carried 1/2 a ton of wood pellets 6 times this year it can handle the lathe.

Thanks again for your help and well wishes. And yeah I caught that turning bug BAD! It dont know if Mikes bug bit me at his house but, His lathe sure made my decision that the was the one I wanted. And I wanted it bad enough that I sold the extra machines and other tools I dont ues alot to get it (hence the sooner within a year timeframe).

THanks again Everyone

Chris

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chris K

>TRUE very true,

I had had it with the 20 year old remington saw and the borken recoil spring did me in. And then you go and pull the wood nazi "no wood for you!" new saw new lathe and nothin to turn this sucks...

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Capt Skip

>Wood Nazi, I like that for a second I thought we were on the Moo board.

Shhh, Chris we know where the wood is :)

Would you like some big bradford pear peices?

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Dick Hines

>Mine also came on a pallet, a flimsy pallet. I built a dolly on some strong wheels. The guys at Wood Craft hepled me to get the shipping pallet on my dolly. Made it easy to roll the whole thing into my ulity trailer.

When I got it home I used a 2 ton come along to lift it off the pallet. I was lucky because I have a steel I beam in celing of my shop. Just hooked the come along to the beam and wrapped a chain around the bed. I used the headstock and tail stock to balance the lathe while lifting.

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chris K

>I would love some bradford paer pieces skip! Before I got the turning bug I gave away two 14" dia stumps from my house for firewood. Its been a tough one to live down...