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Which Ellsworth video?

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Which Ellsworth video?

#1

Which Ellsworth video?

Bud Gabaree

>Hey all,

I've been using the David Ellsworth gouge for months now, but I can't help but think that I still have something to learn with it. I'm not even sure I'm using it the way he intended. I've looked at his video selection, but can't decide which one is best for learning the most using his Signature gouge.

Can someone weigh in with an opinion of the videos?

Thanks, bud

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Anthony

>The videos do help.Ellsworth,along with other profesional turners will show you several different cuts from heavy to very delicate.Bill Grumbine being another.Everyone may grind the drawn back gouge a little differently.Our club featured Lyle Jaimeson in the fall,and he doesn't care for the slight hump in the gouge when you use the Wolverine system.What he did was to make a small wooden block that fits in the cradle of the Wolverine to place the tip of the verigrind tool in.This eliminates that small hump which a lot of turners claim you get some nasty catches.Hope this helps..

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Fog Tanner

>I have the Tips for Turners # and the video on the Signiture Gouge. In addition I have seen the Tips for Turners #3. If you are looking to learn how to use the gouge, the Signiture Gouge tape is the best. I called Dave and asked which he recommened and he was right. I was doing everything wrong, until I watched the tape and he pointed out all the things I had been doing wrong. Now it is my favorite for doing bowls. That and a 1/2" and 9/16" shallow gouge.

You can get the tapes/DVDs straight from Dave, lets him make a few more bucks and hes a great buy to talk to..

Fog

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JamieDonaldson

>What hump- if you are using the jig correctly the swept back wings should have a nice fair/uniform curve (or straight edge if you prefer)without any humps or dips.

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Lyn J. Mangiameli

>Fog is right on all accounts. I have all the Ellsworth videos and the Signature Gouge video is the very best match for your interests. You will definitely learn things from this video. I used to watch it a couple of times every year and always found another little tip that was helpful.

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Bill Grumbine, Kutztown PA

>Jamie, I was wondering what hump too until I thought about it for a while. I spend quite a bit of time regrinding gouges which come into my shop to the long fingernail grind. One thing that happens, and some people who are just starting out with the gouge do not catch, is the hump that forms as the gouge is approaching the correct shape, but is not quite there yet. It "looks" like the right shape, but there is a sharp turn down on the edge giving it a rounded looking, but very grabby shape. Just a little more shaping flattens it out and makes the tool a joy to use. At least, that is the hump that I have seen.

Bill

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Bud Gabaree

>Thanks everyone, just ordered the signature gouge video.

Bud

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Russ Fairfield

>Bill,

I'm not sure which is worse, the hump, or going to far and making a dip in the curve.

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#9

Re: I suspect a different motive for the wooden bl

Al Crandall --NE of Indy--

>I suspect a different motive for the wooden block. A common dimension used by a lot of turners is to have the point of the varigrind jig sitting 4" below the centerline of the grinder. This is impossible with an 8" wheel unless you shim up the bottom of the vee pocket where the varigrind registers. I know that is the reason why I and a lot of others have wood vees in our Wolverine set ups. I use 7" from the wheel to the back of the basket, 4" below, and 2" protrusion of the gouge from the varigrind.

As for the hump you mentioned, the shape of your cutting edge is totally a function of how much you grind off the tool in any one particular spot. The varigrind controls the bevel angle, and your eye-hand coordination controls the shape.

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#10

Re: I suspect a different motive for the wooden bl

Lee Weed

>Al,

At what angle do you have the vari-grind set, or which notch?

Thanks,

Lee

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#11

Re: I've never measured the angle.

Al Crandall --NE of Indy--

>Hi Lee. I use the third notch down from the top. This gives me a grind which has less than 90* between the plane of the cutting edge and the bevel angle on the end of the gouge. I like this configuration because all my chucks use a straight tenon and I can cut the 90* intersecton of the tenon and shoulder against which the chuck jaws will seat in one motion and without changing tools.

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