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Question For Mark Kauder

Barbara Gill, Remlik VA

>I just re-read Dave Smith's article on alcohol drying. What wall thickness did you use for the 16" bowl? What soaking time? About how many gal. of alcohol did it take using the garbage bag as a container?

I think you are right about this being the best approach for these large holly bowls. The alcohol should speed up things a little so maybe I can retain the whiteness of the wood.

Do you know if anyone has tried boiling followed by alcohol?

It looks as if I may have most of this weekend to turn and I want to get this wood turned as soon as possible.

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Mark Kauder, Phenix City, AL

>Barb,

Thickness: I would think that you could get away with less than the normal 10% of diameter. I would think that an fat inch would be good.

Soaking time: I have never heard of anyone having problems from soaking too long (other than my waste blocks falling off two bowl I forgot about for a month). I might soak it overnight just to be sure it was saturated.

Amount of Alcohol: What I did was put the bowl in the bag, filled the bowl with alcohol, dumping a whole gallon in, letting it spill over into the bag, and then pulled the bag up tight to the bowl and zip-tied it shut.

This is one case were I think that I would use virgin alcohol - to make sure that nothing tainted the whiteness of the Holley. The alcohol I have been using is a very dark brown from several Walnut pieces, but it does not seem to have effected lighter wood that followed. The slight discoloration was quickly turned away in final finishing.

Someone on my website asked me the same thing about boiling and then alcohol soaking. I personally think that the boiling would be a waste of time. From what I understand, boiling's main advantage it to lessen the incidence of cracking. But distortion and drying times seem to stay about the same as regular drying processes. The alcohol process lessens the cracking and to some extent the warping, and speeds the drying. So, I do not see the point of the two step process.

Good Luck.

Mark

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Barbara Gill, Remlik VA

>Thank you so much for your quick response. Your answers have really helped Mark.

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Terry Quiram

>Barbara

I have left bowls in alchol for as long as a week.

Terry

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Barbara Gill, Remlik VA

>Thanks Terry. I like s process where I don't have to meet an absolute schedule. My life is not that organized.

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Ron, Neosho, Wi.

>I hope I'm right,here, did you need a container to put large bowls into? If so try this: there are large Blue plastic (?) 55 gal. drums you can pick up,used, for $5-$10. They must measure nearly 20" across. They are impervious to nearly everything. Mark a line say 10" high from the bottom all the way around. lay the drum on its side. Take a saber saw with a medium tooth, drill an access hole for the blade in the side of the drum. With someone helping slowly saw along the line until you've got a nice container. Be sure to round over the cut edge, it can be very sharp. A piece of visqueen and a bungee cord will secure the top and fumes. Voila!

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Barbara Gill, Remlik VA

>Thanks for the information. I picked up a container that is 18" across at the Dollar General for $6. The blue drum would be a real good thing to have for larger though.

I bought some construction grade plastic bags today for the soak. I had bought the other container before re-reading Dave's article.

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