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Sioux sanding drill

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Sioux sanding drill

Ed Kelle

>Hi everyone. I've been thinking about getting this drill for a while and was wondering how good it is? I like the fact that it is smaller and lightweight, plus the angled head looks good also. Is there a reason to get either the high speed one or the low speed? I asked Craft supplies, and they didnt have an answer for me. Any recommendations for sanding pads? The foam ones or the waves ones? I'll be using this mostly for bowls, but possibly on the outsides of some vases as well. Any advice would really help. Thanks

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Bob Hackett

>I think you`ll be happier with the slower speed.That and a keyless chuck was the advice I got.

MB

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John Carr

>I have the slow speed model, and I like it a lot. It does make sanding inside bowls MUCH easier and quicker. The chuck does need a key (not a big deal).

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Bill Luinetti

>I have two of these units, but I have had to have the bearings replaced on them within the first four months. Since then, based on information that I received from turners here a few months back, I have changed my habits so that I use the Sioux at the slowest possible speed, and adjust the net sanding effect by varying the lathe speed.

I like the Sioux, and if you keep in mind that it is not designed for continuous use, it will probably last much longer than my experience. A turner named Darryl Hansen pointed out awhile back that the bearings are not sealed, and prone to failure because of continuous exposure in an abrasive environment, and did post some suggestions for bearing replacement (post warranty). That thread was back in September.

Happy turning (sanding?)

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Bill Luinetti

>I didn't mean to post the reply specifically to John Carr's message...my reply was intended for the original message...

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George Van

>I chucked a keyless chuck in mine and now change the pads quickly.

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Mark Kauder, Phenix City, AL

>Ed,

Several points here.

1) The Sioux and the Milwaukee close quarters drills are virtually identical (I think one is licensed by the other). However, the Milwaukee sells for much less. You can routinely find them on Ebay new for $69. I know because I looked last week, thinking about buying a second. These do not come with the keyless chucks, but you can add one fairly cheaply.

2) The clones that you can also buy on Ebay for $39 are of a much lesser quality. I have one, but it is my backup - in case. I am using it because my Milwaukee is in the shop for a rebuild - started making an odd noise. It has received heavy use for the last 3 years w/o problem.

3) Get the lower speed drill, you will not need the highest speed for sanding. Though, you will not need the highest speed that the low speed drill has either. Couple of hundred RPM is more than enough. When sanding, I stick one of my fingers under the trigger paddle, and that limits how fast the drill will go. Others I have known have glued or taped a wooden block under the trigger for the same reason.

4) Blow out the drill with compressed air fairly often, it will lengthen the life of drill.

5) Make your own sanding disks. For the price of one package of 50 fancy wavey disks, you can purchase a sheet 36"x39" of velco sandpaper from Industrial Abrasives ($15.75). From it you can make 350 2"x2" squares in about 20 minutes (see http://www.woodcentral.com/articles/shop/articles_193.shtml for information on how to do it). Not only will you save money, sandpaper becomes cheap enough throw it away when you should. Some famous turner once said, "Use sandpaper like someone else is paying for it". He was right.

Have fun.

Mark


Industrial Abrasives Hook and Loop sheets

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Ed Kelle

>Thanks to everyone for their responses. I am going to get a Milwaukee version on ebay. Yes I had heard of some issues with dust and I will be sure to blow it out with my compressor from time to time, I can't wait to say goodbye to hot fingers and start using the new drill. Thanks again

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Ed Kelle

>Thanks Mark. Thats a lot of good info there. I will get the Milwaukee on ebay soon, and order some of that velcro also. I have a compressor and I will probably use some styrofoam under the trigger.

Any recommendations for what kind of speed to set the lathe to? I assume something low as well.

And would the padded discs work better?

does it make a difference that I would be putting square cut discs on round pads?

Thanks very much for your help

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Mark Kauder, Phenix City, AL

>Ed,

Using the square disks on a round pad is pretty much the same as using a wavey disk - the intent is to eliminate the sharp edge that can dig in to the wood. There are times that I need to sand into a narrow area, and the corners of the disk hinder that. When I need to do that, I just trim the sandpaper to fit the pad with a pair of utility shears.

The speed question is always a subject of debate. The general concensus is to run the relatively slow. 100-200 rpm is pretty good. But if your lathe only goes down to 500 rpm, then that will do. Running the lathe and the drill slowly reduces the heat to the bowl, and the velcro pad.

Most of the disk holders are good, some better (more expensive) than others. The ones I have linked to below are somewhat firm, and thus can be used for shaping. Softer disk holders will follow the bowl shape w/o changing it. You can make your own as well - quarter inch shaft, piece of wood and some foam from a mouse pad, or one of those insulated holders for soda/beer cans, and a piece of velcro hooks. I generally buy mine, and then when I tear one up, I rebuild it myself.

Mark


http://www.packardwoodworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=snding-bholdext-hooklh

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Ed Kelle

>Mark,

Thanks again for all the advice and the link. I am running a Delta 14" and it only goes to 500rpm, so that will have to do. I will just limit the trigger travel on the drill also. I think I will got for a soft pad, I can get a decent surface with my tools, so no real need to reshape much. I will look into getting a few sheets of the paper in different grits and cut them myself. thanks again