Knowledge You Can Build On — Est. 1998
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William
>Well, I just got the new ONEWAY catalog in the mail. I saw the reason why they pulled the prices on their lathes on the Website. It had "please call for prices".
For the 2436, 3hp package, it went from $5017 to $5525!
The prices for their entire line of lathes went up big time.
Interestingly enough, on some accessories, the prices stayed the same. On others, it went up.
I was hoping in the next couple of months to place an order. Now, I am not so sure.
William
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Ron in Drums PA
>Weak dollar will do it everytime.
Oneway raising prices
William
>Yeah, our dollar is taking a beating.
Only thing I don't understand is why they didn't raise prices across the board on all their products. The biggest increase seemed to be in the lathe area.
William
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Robert Cox
>Steel prices, maybe?
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Jerry Whitaker
>Did you mean to say "steal"?
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Fog Tanner
>Its advertising and the economy. The economy is better and more disposbale income. People aren't afraid to spend right now. A couple of years ago, there is now way they could have increased the price and had a market. Their advertising has most of the people beleiving that they are the best lathe in the world, so there is a large hobbist market now. But, look at what most of the professional turners use (Vicmarc or Stubby). There is no single best, there are a number of good ones and then the rest. There are industrial grade and consumer grade.
If Stubby can sell their lathe for well over $5000, then why not Oneway. The minor point that the Stubby is a bowl lathe that can do spindles and the Oneway, like the Vic, is a spindle lathe that can do bowls is missing. So the comparison is not really apples to apples and neither should be the price. But, again it is perception and what you are willing to pay for that belief.
What is hurting the Australian made lathes is the freight costs. The Vicmarc and Stubby are reasonably priced in Australia, but freight on my Vic 300 (1000lbs) to Texas was $1500. And the freight has probably gone up in the last four months. My 24" Vic was only $3,300 at the dock in Australia, but $4,800 at my door. So, Oneway has a captive audience now. You either pay the freight for a Vic, Stubby, or VB if you want a high end machine, settle for a Chinese wonder, or look to Canada.
Reality is.....
TD
>#1 Steel has gone up over 10%
#2 Dollar is weak which makes the price go up
#3 Dollar is weak and the international freight companies want to be paid in whatever currency is the highest value so if the dollar has gone down by 30% against the Euro then the freight has gone up by 30%
#4 Reputation. One-way has earned a reputation for giving good service. People will pay more for a machine from a company that offers service after the sale. It is too bad some other companies don't realize this. VB and One-way are the two best companies that I know of for taking care of their customers; this has value. As other companies try to lower thier price to get sales these companies do not have to because they are selling a quality product with a good reputation. Be prepared folks, the dollar is still sliding and any machine not made in the US or Taiwan will be going up even more.
TD
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Wood Spinner
>Terry
It is way up in our area, almost 40 % just like lumber.
Bill
That's where the most steel is...
Peter Teubel
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Steve Mushinski
>It was posted more than once that the price of Canadian goods were going to go sky ward. I did post a few time to people to buy now as Oneway was charging over $1000 Canadian more for a lathe (2436) then the US price. Now with the Canadian $ so much higher (15% approx.) then it was last year you are seeing the results is all. It is killing a ton of business in Canada right now. My wifes company is looking to head south as there is not the dollar benifit anymore. The Oneway is still a very good deal I would think.
I do believe that you are looking at continued higher prices as goverment policy will continue for the next four years.
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Charlie Romano
>The larger Vicmarcs are cast in Thailand - not in Australia. They are assembled in Australia. You will notice that the Craft Supply catalog only says Made in Australia for the VL100 mini lathe.
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Jack Stevenson
>Well let's see.
Steel has coubled in price twice in the last 6 months. Word is out that the Chinese will take any scrap you've got and will pay whatever the going rate is. So the going rate has been slowly but inexorably climbing.
The almighty dollar has been tanking big time so even Canadian bucks are now getting more valuable than the US kind.
I'm surprised they were able to keep their price increases so light.
Jack
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Jack Stevenson
>Ironically everything cited can go back to China and their insatiable appetite for anything that keeps the production lines rolling. All you have to do is look at the prices at Harbor Freight. There is no way that a Delta clone can be built much less sold for 179 bucks. It all comes down to keeping the masses employed. That way the dictators can retain power for awhile longer. One day some branch in the world economy will go beyong the max bending moment and break. Then we will see the face of chaos one more time. It is coming, good buds. The only question is when...
Jack
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Fog Tanner
>The reason the CS only says made in Australia on the VL100, is the rest of the machines are not true Vics. CS buys the bed, tailstock and banjo. They build their own base and supply another drive. They should really call it a CS Blue and not a Vic as they are two differnt machines.
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Charlie Romano
>The Craft Supply catalog does say the base of the Vicmarc is made in the USA. It is silent as to where the lathe was made. If you look at one of the previous CS catalogs that carried the Woodfast lathe - it will say the base was made in the US and the lathe was made in Australia.
