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Mounting your grinder?

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Mounting your grinder?

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Mounting your grinder?

Bill Grumbine, Kutztown PA

>Greetings all

For the past four years, my grinder has been sitting on a large table inherited from my grandfather's darkroom. It is a nice sturdy table, and it has a very nice stainless steel top, but it is big and bulky, with very little storage in the one drawer. I am making some major changes in the shop, one of which is building a wall cabinet to hold all the stuff in the drawer and then some in better order than it is all stored now. That means that the grinder needs to be relocated, remounted, or whatever.

So my question is this. How do you all (and I do mean all) mount your particular grinder? Subsequent questions arising from the first - is it portable, stationary, retractable, what? Is it close to the lathe, or away from it? I have three lathes in service now, two of which will need the grinder. The copy lathe will probably not, unless I start taking on more than one student at a time on a regular basis. My grinder also has a Wolverine system attached, so I will need clearance for the long arm.

Thanks, and I will look forward to lots of answers - I hope.

Bill

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Ron in Drums PA

>Hey Bill

You saw mine. Mounted on a 2x8 so it's portable. All I need is a clamp to hold it down to any table/bench.

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JL work

>Woodcraft does have a grinder stand. I have been looking at it and sort of "lusting" after it. MSC has a decent one also. I am fortunate (or unfortunate) to work within two miles of the MSC distribution center and about four from McMaster Carr.


MSC Grinder stand

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Gil

>Mine's mounted to my bench on the corner closest to my lathe. I've seen a great setup using a tailer truck brake drum. You bolt a post to that, and then attach the grinder to the post. The brake drum must weigh 100-200lbs. Provides a very stable and "portable" tool holder.

-Gil

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John Lucas

>Bill

Mine is mounted one the wobbliest stand you could build. It works but I'm going to build a sand filled box. My current stand is about 48" tall but I've decided that is too tall for some needs so I'm going to lower it by maybe 6". I'm also going to mount 2 wheels on the back so I can tilt and roll it around if I find that I need to move it. Almost everything in my shop has some sort of retractable or removeable wheels. Those that don't, will have wheels before I move into my new shop.

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I never mount my grinder....

Thomas Skaggs, Foothills of Mount Level

>....lest I get something ground off that I don't want to lose! ;-)

Tommy

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Jesper, Denmark

...and an add-on question...

Jesper, Denmark

>Hi Bill and Forum,

My grinder sits on top of an old style desk, converted to have drawers for all the abrasives and non-gouge lathe tools and accesories. It is located against a wall 90� to the lathe centerline on my left.

The whole thing is on wheels as are most things in the shop.

The add-on question is: What do people do to catch the dust and stuff from the grinder? It makes a mess, but I have been reluctant to add this to the dust collection system for fear of sparks setting fire to it.

Jesper

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Barbara Gill, Remlik VA

>Mine is mounted on a shop built table right behind where I stand at the lathe. I also use the table to hold "things" including the sandpaper I am using, a ruler, drill, etc. I mount the blanks on the faceplate, change jaws, etc. on this table. It is close enough for me to turn around and use the grinder but far enough away (usually) that I don't bump into the Wolverine arm.

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John Weeks

>Bill, my grinder is bolted to a wooden stand and that works well for me. Several members of our club have their grinder bolted to a 3/4" piece of plywood or mdf. The wolverine mounts etc. are attached to this base. That makes the grinder quite portable and I've never noticed any problems with stability even when the base wasn't clamped to whatever it was sitting on. However the grinder tends to be too low for me with it sitting on a typical workbench.

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Gerry Meekins

>Bill,

I mounted mine to an old security camera mounting bracket. The kind that you see on the side of buildings. There is a chunk of 2X8 under the grinder to mount the wolverene jig.

The whole thing is pretty sturdy and you can sweep under it with no obstructions.(LOL, like that�s gonna happen!)

Gerry

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Re: ...and an add-on question...

John Lucas

>I'm going to rig up some kind dust collection for my grinder after the move. I'm thinking about putting a fan on the end of a hose with a collection bin below the grinder. Anyone have any thoughts on that idea?

I was worried about fire alsoso I didn't want to use the shop vac or dust collector. I'm very worried about the grinder dust. We had a pulmonologist give us a lecture on safety in the workshop and his opinion was the dust from the grinder was one of the most harmful things we could breath. Mine is really bad when I clean the wheels or true up the wheels.

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Dust collection

Fred in NC

>It is very harmful, but the amound of dust my grinder produces is very small. For all the expense in connecting a dust collector to it, I think a small vac ($20) will do the job adequately. I did the same with a sander.

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Wally Dickerman at Green Valley, Az.

>My grinder is mounted on a shop-built single post stand. It is very close to my lathe but can easily be moved. When visiting other turners shops, I have observed that most people have their grinders mounted too low IMO. If you find yourself bending over the grinder it's too low.

I tend to hold my breath during the few moments that it takes to dress the wheels. I don't want to breathe that stuff. I Really should wear a mask.

Wally

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Portable,..somewhat

Dominic Greco in Richboro PA

>Bill,

I mounted my grinder on top of a portable stand that I can move about the shop if needed. But I actually have the grinder stand fastened (with a c-clamp) to my lathe tool cart. It hasn't moved since I built the cart. But it sure is handy when I need to clean the table off. Or if the odd chance arises that I need to use the rolling cart as an outfeed table.

See ya around,

My ugly mug

Dominic


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Careful...Santa's Watching! >:^)

Jay Kilpatrick in TX

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MikeinCapeMay

>Hi Bill,

Do you recall looking at my lathe and the bench area and grinders "behind" it? I have an "L" shaped bench the long arm is behind me and the short leg to my right as I stand at the lathe. On the short leg to my right is my Tormek. Behind me, at the end of the long arm near where it meets the short is a slow speed grinder with a Veritas jig. The Tormek, which needs to be turned 180 on occasion is not mounted permanently. The slow speed is. The bench that they are mounted on is taller that most, due to my height, 42" from floor to bench top. The bench is constructed of 3/4" ply with a doubled 3/4" MDF top. Beneath the stop I constructed lots of drawers, shelves and larger storage spaces. Outlets along the wall at the back of the bench top. Long arm adjustable light at the grinders. Since I spend 90% of my time at the lathe I positioned the grinders so that they are pretty much with arms reach. Well a step or two. This has worked out well.

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Rodney Jenkins

>When I see these stands, whether for grinder, planer, minilathe, sander, etc, I always think: "that sure is a lot of wasted space beneath it". Space is at such a premium in my shop, not to mention the efficiency realized by saving steps and organizing, that I've cobbled together stands with drawers beneath for every piece of equipment except the big lathe and bandsaws.

I decided on a standard height of 34 1/2" because that is the height of the tablesaws. I put rollers under each stand and threaded rod levelers to keep it from moving while in use. The rollers are for moving things around if I need to accomodate a large piece on a tablesaw.

What I meant to say, before digressing into shop philosophy, is my vote goes for building a stand-alone rollaround stand with drawers :)

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Slow Speed Grinder With a Felt Wheel Tommy!!

Jim Shaver, Oakville Ontario

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John Trant (Baltimore/DC area)

>Originally, I had my grinder mounted on a 7-drawer home-made cabinet that I mounted on wheels. The drawers keeps the dust/curls off of my sandpaper, tools, centers, CA glue, and specialty items. I can push the cabinet out of the way if I am cleaning up or doing flat work. Or I can move it to the most convenient position whether I am turning bowls outboard or spindles. The problem is that tended to put things (currently used tools, sandpaper, finishes, CA glue) on the top of the cabinet which would interfer with the operation of the grinder. I now have the grinder mounted on the tailstock side of my lathe table. I like the convenience but it interfers with some lathe operations (e.g., use of my Jameison hollower).

I am now thinking about putting a drop-leaf "wing" on one side of my mobile cabinet for mounting the grinder. I can drop the wing to save space but have it quickly and readily available when turning.

John

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John Leech in 'rural' Festus, MO

>Bill, I have my grinder mounted to an old kitchen cabinet about 1 3/4 steps away from the lathe. Next to the grinder I have a functional, but not yet finished, plywood cabinet with hutch that I use to store lathe tools and goodies in. Works for me.

John

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Mark Kauder

>I currently have my grinder mounted on the rolling cabinet that used to be the stand for my Mini-lathe, and it right next to the handwheel of my Vega (see shop shots on webpage). I would like to save more space, but I need all the drawers that are in the cabinet for all the other turning junk. The top also provide a flat place for stuff (bowl blanks, tool rests, etc) when I need it.

Though I do not do it now, I agree wit Wally, I like the idea of mounting the grinder, that I use almost exclusively for gouge sharpening, higher. I am considering raising it to mid-chest level - easier to see what I am doing.

Alternatly, I have an articulating arm that was designed to hold a 20" computer monitor on a wall, that I have though about mounting the grinder on, so that it is adjustable, and would swing out of the way when not needed.

Mark


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Fog Tanner

>I bought an inexpensive "frame" at a tool show. Its one of those stamped out wonders that can be bolted together in differnt configurations for differnt machines. I made a top out of 2x4's that had been jointed, planed, and glued togther with biscuits. This was bolted to the frame. I framed around the top (in cedar) for a 1/4" hardboard surface. I added some 3/8" plywood gussets to make the frame a little more rigid. I located my 100lb Delta 8" grinder and bolted it down with some 3/8" carriage bolts. This works fine as the grinder is so massive that I don't have any vibration in my "overbuilt" stand.

I have my Elsworth jig setup on this grinder and its located behind and slightly to the right of center of my lathe. Its about 4 1/2 feet away where I normally stand at the lathe. My Tormek is mounted on a cabinet at 90 degress from my Delta and about 6 feet away. It has a drawer with all the jigs and grinder associated tools, with addition storage under that. I was careful to keep both grinders out of the blast path, I don't want a piece of wood comming off and taking out my Tormek or the wheels on my Delta. The casting on the Delta is 1/4" thick and I haven't found anything that could hurt it.

My cheap 6" grinder is mounted on a wooden barstool, which suprisingly works great for that grinder. But, I don't have any vibration in that grinder either, both wheels have been trued. I can move it easily to where ever I need to grind a bolt. I keep it at least 20 feet from the lathe so I won't be tempted to use it in my turning tools.

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Dave Anderson Chester, NH

>I just ordered one of these and received it Tuesday. It seems sturdy enough though I was disappointed to find that there are on rubber pads or feet for it included. The holes are there, but you have to buy your own. I'll be making up a heavy plywood or 8/4 maple plate to mount on the top of the stand to extend the base area. I too use a Wolverine and got really tired of having to go to the next room to sharpen my turning tools. I found I wasn't sharpening them often enuf because of the hassle.

This new stand will be right off of the left end of my lathe so it's handy and gets used more often.

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Don Evans

>Hi Bill:

I really like my setup, it has worked well. I purchased one of the standard grinder pedestals from harbor freight. This is the one that cost $50.00 cast iron and very heavy.

I removed the top plate (just unscrew one bolt) and made a 3/4" thick plywood table covered with formica, edged the plywood with 1 x 2".

The secret here is that the plywood top goes onto the center tube first, then the metal plate goes back on top. Then grinder is seated on the metal top and bolts go thru grinder, metal top and plywood top pulling them all together. I had to make cut outs in the plywood center for the metal ribs on the bottom of the metal top.

BUT, the good part is this drops the plywood the perfect amount (about 1/4") so that 2x4's on the plywood table are perfect size to mount the Wolverine on.

I have plans to use my delta dustcollector blower to suck through it and blow out the window. I did have it connected to a 5 gallon can with baffles and the delta, but since installing the Onieda I've not connected that system to it as it is too strong and I have no doubt it could get live spark back to it. I only use this grinder, Delta 8" 1800 rpm for tool sharpening.

Other, Baldor, does the heavy grinding outdoors.

Can email pictures if you like.

Don

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Bill Grumbine, Kutztown PA

>Thanks for the responses everyone! John, I had a seriously wobbly stand for years. I had to keep one foot on it to keep it from tipping over every time I used it. It was a recycled old side table I built for a radial arm saw I used to have. I stood it on end and put four castors on it. It was about 10" square and 48" high. Add in a heavy grinder, and you get the idea!

To everyone else, I appreciate your time in describing your own setups. I am going to have to do some thinking, but I sort of like the idea of a cabinet underneath. I just have to think of what might end up there.

Bill