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Face shields?

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Face shields?

Carole in VA

>Ok, I know you folks are getting tired of questions, but bear with me! I will give you a rest tomorrow. ;>)

What brand face shields do you use? All of the ones I have seen say they are not adequate eye protection alone and that safty glasses or goggles should be worn underneath them.

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Jack Savona

>I've used one from Home Depot (about $11 for the whole unit and $5-ish for a replacement shield).

On three occasions I have had wood projectiles slam the shield and not make a dent in it (or me either). I ALWAYS wear a shield...down!

Jack Savona

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Stuart Johnson

>I have two. One is from Woodcraft and has a rather thin shield. I use it when applying finish and will soon need to buy a new shield because of the CA and finish splatters.

The one I now use for turning I bought at ACE Hardware store. It looks like the name is AO Saftey. The shield is a very heavy duty polycarbonate.

Both have advantages and disadvantages. The Woodcraft has the thine sheild but ratchet adjustments. The ACE has heavey duty straps sort of like those on a baseball cap. But the headband is more comfortable and it does have the heavy duty shield. If I purchase another it will be the ACE.

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Binen Eastern Ia

>Face shields are just that, a face shield they are not designed to be eye protection. ALWAYS wear eye protection under your face shield. I picked up mine at harbor freight for about $10. They will protect your face from larger slivers or pieces that may break off. They offer minimum impact protection from any heavy object. A face shield will help protect from cuts and scrapes. I always wear mine when turning but in the back of my mind I know I do it to feel safe not be safe.

Oh and never stop asking question. I learn so much from everyone�s questions. Many I would never think to ask.

Binen

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Bill Howatt

>I was using the AOS sold by Lee Valley. I recently bought a Triton powered respirator and it has a face shield attached to a hard hat.

I believe safety glasses are still recommended.

Bill

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walta100

>The most import thing is that it is labeled as passing AMSI Z87.1

Without the AMSI label it�s just a hat.

When I looked last year, the ones in my local Woodcraft were not labeled.

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Fog Tanner

>A face shiled is something you don't want to scrimp on. I was making a box and had a catch pull a pice from the chuck which struck my face shield directly on my nose. I was wearing a 3M Powervisor which deflected the wood. All it did was snap my head back, no other damage. When I don't use the Powervisor I use a heavy duty face shield. At present I am lookinmg at replacing the Powervisor with an Airstream. This is a powered respirator with a hardhat. I beleive it is only a matter of time before a burl explodes and I catch some frag with my head.

You may want to look at one of powered respirators, which combines facial protection along with lung protection. While the wood deflected by the face shield is more noticable, the damage done by the dust is more extensiveover a period of time. So if you want to keep turning, look towards talking care of your lungs too. Even the Trend is better than nothing, it will catch some of the dust and offers facial protection. But, the more insudtrial vesions provide mustch better protection, both facial and respitory.

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Philip Duffy

>A few years back I strongly recommended a welders face shield, the kind with a little bitty window. Seems a bit extreme but it has saved me serious injury a couple of times. The window can be clear as well as open so it has some options. Still gets used, in rough work, when there is a danger of chunks flying off. If I had a pretty face I might even wear it more often! Phil

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Jim Pugh, Ohio

>Carole, I don't think brand is as important as quality of the head hardware and the length/thickness of the shield itself. Bought my first few at woodturning emporiums but eventually found that when I wanted a replacement shield, they no longer carried the same brand. So, have discovered that my local welding supply store has very nice headgear and face shields (typically sold separately and you put together what you want. Also found out that face shields come in .040" thickness (thin) and .060" thickness (my choice). They also come in different lengths. Get the longest one available. The combined cost will run about $20 plus or minus a few $. While there, look at the wild cloth head covers that welders wear to keep metal grit out of their hair. Get one to wear under your face shield head gear and it will keep the wood chips/sanding dust out of your hair. Also looks neat when worn by itself around the shop. My most recent one cost <$5 and they are washable.

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Robert Simmons, Atlanta

>I wear a Triton helmet whenever the lathe is turning. You get good face/head protection and dust protection as well. I used to wear a basic shield that I got at HD, then I took a hit from a flying piece of wood and the headband sliced a 3-stitch hole in my forhead. The shield did it's job in that I wasn't injured any worse, but I upgraded after that, first to a Racal and then to the Triton for better dust protection.

Robert

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Thank you Carole for asking

Wayne Cooper Charlotte NC

>the great questions. I just got a Jet mini for Christmas Saturday and I have been following your problems. I knew how to get the face plate off because you ask last week. You are helping those of us getting started. Wayne Cooper Charlotte NX

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Carole in VA

>Oh, so you are sitting back and letting me look like the only dummy? LOL (Just kidding. :>)

Jump in and ask so I won't feel like the only newbie!

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Tony - Memphis

>I'm no "turner," to qualify, but I use the Woodcraft shield (not sure the brand). It was very inexpensive. So far, so good. I do wear my safety glasses and usually a mask under it.

Tony

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Industrial/welding supply and safety gear

Bob Hackett

>I`d go to the local source of supply for welders as they will have a number of options to choose from.Look for shields that are OSHA,etc approved for impact resistance,the saleman can help here.

Look at the comfort level of the headband/suspension system and be sure to remove the sweat pad and ease any sharp edges in the plastic under it to avoid any cuts following an inpact like the one which caused the 3 stitches for a previous poster.

You`ll find that most welding supply houses carry accessory leather or sheepskin sweatbands for thier welding helmets find one that fits your faceshield,you`ll be glad you did.

The place you get your faceshield should have replacement shields to fit the headband.Get a shield that will allow you to wear a respirator under it,they`ll have a selection of these with replacement cartridges.Buy cartridges for dust/welding smoke and be sure the respirator exhausts downward instead of forward so it doesn`t fog the shield as much.Treat the shield with a no fog product or wipe with a dryer sheet to keep the dust cling down before use.

The key thing here is to visit a place that allows you to try on afew of these things and buy the ones that are most comfortable.If it`s not comfortable to wear all day then you`ll find reasons NOT to wear it we all know where that leads.

The reason I`m steering you toward the welding supply area is that welders are required to wear this type of gear all day so it`s some of the most comfortable available and has the widest range of accessories to improve comfort.It`s also easier to buy local as you can talk face to face with someone who will help you make imformed decisions as to safety and comfort.It` also important to have a source for replacement parts that`s just across town as opposed to having to wait for things to be shipped and perhaps giving in to the urge to complete that project without protection.Such things make the difference between being safe and visiting the ER.

You`ll also want a pair of good quality safety glasses(impact resistant) either wrap around or with side shields to wear under that faceshield for when you forget to flip it down.

Mainely,Bob

Addy protocol-Over 20 years experience as a welder and shipfitter/metal fabricator and far too much experience in the eye doctor`s office removing imbedded foreign objects despite my best attempts at safety