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Nova 3000: First Impressions

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Nova 3000: First Impressions

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Nova 3000: First Impressions

James Aguanno in Delran NJ

>Well, if you read my previous article about my new lathe purchase, you know that I chose the Nova 3000 with a 1.5 HP motor. This is the standard belt driven machine without an electronic variable speed system (more on that later). This article will describe my first impressions of the lathe with a little comparison to my previous lathe (a vintage Shop Smith 10ER (SS)).

I decided to pick up the lathe rather than having it delivered. I figure that I saved about $100 in shipping and another $50 in taxes (I bought it in Delaware). This was not too difficult for me because the ride was only about an hour, but the guys at Woodcraft were patient with my late arrival.

My initial impression is that it is rather heavy. It all came in one box (the motor was in a box of its own, but packed in a larger box with the lathe. With that said, I was able to get it out of the truck and onto the stand alone, but I will not be doing that again.

The lathe does not come with a stand (one is offered but separately), so I chose to use the stand that I had for my SS for the time being. The stand is made from plywood and has room for 200 pounds of sand on the shelf. It is at a good height for me (I am short) and is relatively solid. As I become more comfortable with the lathe and know what I want in a stand, I will be rebuilding it. I do know that I need to incorporate storage for chucks, centers, and other tools into the stand.

Assembly of the lathe went well and only took about an hour and a half. The most complicated part is mounting the motor and aligning the pulleys. In fact, I do not think that they are perfectly aligned yet. I will be working with that until I have it right.

You may notice in the picture that the lathe was elevated above the surface of the stand. This was done to accomplish two problems, make the height of the spindle more suitable to my height and provide room to clear shavings from between the ways. I am really glad that I did this and will incorporate it into my permanent stand design when that happens.

I have not had much time to turn on the lathe yet, but the little that I have done has gone well. My old SS used to rattle and shake, and I found it very difficult to get a nice cut off of the gouge. The tool rest required an allen wrench (and usually a hammer) to adjust, and the carriage was usually in the way. Overall, the tool rest was a poor design, and made it difficult, and sometimes unsafe, to turn. With that said, I did get used to those �features�, and am having a difficult time adjusting to the more modern machine. But, over time, I will surely benefit from the easy adjusting features of the Nova.

Another flaw of the old SS was that I did not have the capability to turn between centers. Even though I feel the tailstock on the Nova is its weakest point, it could have been built heavier and the quill could have been encased, I like the ability to use it. I feel much safer when I mount a heavy, wet, out of balance log on the lathe. With that said, I think I will be upgrading the centers (spur and tail) soon. The tapers are short, and there are very good tailstock center systems out there.

Vibration is just about non-existent (baring a little fine tuning of the pulleys mentioned above). I am getting a much better cut off of the gouge, and am able to take a much bigger cut in general. I have not had the stand move at all even with an out of balance blank. The 1.5 HP motor is a lot smoother then the old .5 horse motor on the SS. The motor mount for the SS was also a very weak point in the design that induced a lot of vibration. However, I do plan to upgrade to a three-phase VFD drive motor in the near future. I know that I can get a system for less than $400 that will greatly improve my turning experience.

As I put this machine through its paces, I am sure to develop some new impressions. For this reason, I plan to right a more comprehensive review of the lathe at that time. I imagine that I will have a better idea of its strengths and weaknesses by the end of the winter, so look for an update then.

thx...jamie


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Joel Hunnicutt

>Congrats on a great choice. You were very smart to put the lathe up a bit off the table. I always wished I had done that, It makes clearing the ways much easier.

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Brad Vietje

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Brad Vietje

>Atta go, Jamie, congratulations !

I learned on a SS Mark V (1955 -- green, not gray !), so I know what you mean about the limitations of the SS as a lathe (though the Mark V models do have a tailstock of sorts). Upgrading to a Jet lathe with a 1" spindle made a world of difference.

I also have a new (3 year-old new stock) Nova 3000 in the garage that I helped my local AAW club purchase, with a 1hp 220v 3ph variable speed motor and inveretr drive. A few wiring details need to be completed before we can turn on it, but that will be completed very soon. I look forward to turning with this lathe, and to hearing about your experiences, as well.

I don't see the tailstock in your photo, but I'm led to beleive that the new tailstock designed for the DVR will also fit this lathe, which is better than the older style. In fact, depending on whether your lathe is new old stock or brand new from the factory, you may even have the new design already. Both are better than what you were using !

Best of luck with the new lathe !

Safe Spinning,

Brad Vietje

Thetford, VT

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Peter Teubel

>"Even though I feel the tailstock on the Nova is its weakest point, it could have been built heavier..."

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You can get the tailstock for the DVR as a seperate item, if you want to upgrade. Much more substantial casting.

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Fred Holder

>I had a Nova 3000 for about four years and found it to be an excellent lathe. Mine had a one hp dc motor and was variable speed. It performed very well and did most things that I asked of it without problems. When I first received my Nova 3000, I had a Record CL-3 mounted on a stand using the Record stamped steel legs and a 3" x 12" pressure treated plank on top. I removed the CL-3 and mounted the Nova 3000 on that stand until I could get around to making a stand for the Nova 3000. I quickly learned that chips built up under the lathe bed and were hard to remove with no space under it.

When I built the new lathe bed, I used the basic plans given in the Nova 3000 manual, except that I had a stack of four foot long 2"x6" pine and fir boards. I used these instead of the 2" x 4" boards specified in the plans. Instead of a solid top as recommended by the plans, I used two 2" x 6" boards spaced apart enough to come up with the width of the top. I then centered the Nova 3000 bed over that slot. I always intended to put in a ramp to get the shavings out from under the bed. That was six years ago and I still have to vacuum them out. The last two years the lathe stand has been supporting my Nova DVR 3000. I did have to extend the bed when I purchased the DVR because I also purchased one bed extension at the same time.

You'll grow to love that Nova 3000. It is an excellent lathe. Variable speed will make it a much more handy lathe to use, but not any better just handier.

Good luck with your new lathe.


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Don Evans

>One thing that I'm curious about is it appears there are two sets of feet on the extension bed on your lathe. The far right one has a board with green end under it and the one to the left of those has a yellow end board. Further, it is just below the end of the red/white sticker.

Does your bed extension have two legs or is that something else I'm seeing?

All the Nova's I've seen and mine have just one leg at the end of each bed extension.

Don

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DD

>I ordered a Nova DVR about two months ago and it came with the additional feet on the extension bed that you are referring to. The extra feet were added to accommodate the cast iron leg stands that Teknatool offered. If I understood Teknatool correctly, all of their bed extensions will come with this extra set of feet. I didn't use them to secure the lathe to my wood stand, however. The DVR is a great lathe. What a fantastic improvement over my SS lathe.

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James Aguanno in Delran NJ

>Yes, there is an additional set of mounting holes on the extension side. I was confused about it because it was not shown in the manual, but just thought it was an improvement. Here is a close up.


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James Aguanno in Delran NJ

>It is the old style tailstock. I heard that I could buy the new one, but have not looked into that yet. I will probably persue it though because I would like to get into some natural edge stuff that may need the extra stability in the beginning stages.

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Don Evans

>Thanks for the information on the extra legs.

Is there anyone else out there with this machine that has trouble with the beds not lining up? One being higher than the other? In your close up shot, the tops of the ribs between the ways appears the tops of them line up very good. Mine doesn't, about 1/16" higher than the other.

This has always been a pain if doing anything like drilling using tailstock. I've resorted to moving things to my metal lathe for than operation.

I'm a bit reluctant to admit I let this go but I figured it was just due to cost of machine. Is this a common problem with this machine?

Don