Got my KM Center Saver! Now some Ques.

Re: Got my KM Center Saver! Now some Ques.

Darryl Hansen

>Haven't seen the DVD but Steve Russel has some pictures on his CD and web site. The directions are really bad but the tool is great. There is a learning curve which I am still on. Main problem is getting to know where the tool is and where it is going. I have a couple of funnels to attest to the fact I'm still not certian when I dig in just where things are going to come out. Lyn M. has the tool and will help if asked....Darryl

Re: Got my KM Center Saver! Now some Ques.

Fred Holder

>I just did a review on Mike's DVD. It is well worth the money. Here is what I had to say about it:

"This new DVD arrived just before

we left for Norway and the Norwegian

Woodturning Cruise. I had time

to watch it one time before we left and

then to discuss it with Mike Mahoney

while we were on the cruise.

I doubt that there are many

woodturners that have not heard of

Mike Mahoney. I�ve known him for

several years and have seen him demonstrate

numerous times. Mike is a production

bowl turner. He tells me that

he normally roughs out about 30 salad

bowls a day. I�ve heard that he once

had a very good day and roughed out

130 bowls in a single day. Needless to

say, he is pretty fast at what he does and

he attributes some of this speed to the

use of the McNaughton Center Saver to

core out the bowls rather that hollow

them with a chisel.

Considering that he uses the center

saver much as I use a gouge, and possibly

more often, he has become quite

profecient with its use. Finally, he has

taken the time from his busy production

schedule to produce this DVD on how

he uses the McNaughton Center Saver.

The production of DVD�s may be sort

of the first step in Mike�s plans to slow

down a bit within the next five or six

years. He tells me that he hopes to be

able to slow his pace a bit over the next

few years so that he can simply enjoy

woodturning and produce more gallery

art than production salad bowls. He says

that he has already started to slow down

a bit, because he shipped less bowls this

year than last year.

Perhaps with this new direction,

we�ll see even more DVD�s from Mike

in the future. This is his third DVD, I believe,

at least it is the third that I have in

my collection. I�m glad he is taking the

time to make these excellent training

DVD�s. This one is really supurb. He

really lays out how to use this system and

makes it clear and easy enough that anyone

with a large enough lathe and a

McNaughton Center Saver will be able

to do an excellent job of coring out their

bowl blanks. It makes a lot of sense

and really decreases the amount of

shavings that one can accumulate in their

shop from turning bowls.

In the DVD, Mike first talks about

the tools, defining the purpose of each

and noting that the McNaughton parting

tool is the best deep parting tool on

the market.

He then talks about how to design

the cores in a piece of wood and

how the tools fit into the grooves cut by

the tool.

Then he shows you how to use

the tool. He has talked about all of the

parts of the tool including the tool rest

and noting that the handle of the cutting

tool must always be lifted up so that it

is in contact with the top of the gate bar.

If you don�t have it lifted up when you

engage the wood, it will give you a terrible

jolt and could remove the wood

from the lathe.

Mike shows the tools for outboard

coring and showed how they can be used

without setting up for outboard turning.

With this method, you can core off all of

the cores without remounting the wood.

Finally, he goes through the steps

in making one of his natural edge sets of

nested bowls. He gets six cores from a

single piece of burl.

The DVD ends with a very impressive

gallery of Mikes nested bowls.

Showing that he has made many more

than the few that we have seen in the

Instant Galleries at some of the Symposiums.

You can order from:

Mike Mahoney

Bowlmaker

275 East 2000 South

Orem, Utah 84058

TEL: 801-802- 8484

E-Mail: latheguy@aol.com

Web Site: www.bowlmakerinc.com"

Hope this helps. I highly recommend getting Mike's DVD before you waste much time with the unit.

Fred Holder

Re: Got my KM Center Saver! Now some Ques.

Phil Joines, Krum, Tx

>I've heard of people adding a laser, like those used with a boring bar, but haven't seen one.

Re: Got my KM Center Saver! Now some Ques.

Tom Mullane, Hagerstown, MD

>Bill Grumbine's new DVD which will be out real soon from what I hear has a section on using the coring system... you might want to wait for it. Especially since you will be getting a lot more than just a coring lesson. I was there for day 2 of the shoot and from what I saw this is going to be a fantastic DVD and a long one.. over 2 hours of Bill teaching his techniques...

Re: Got my KM Center Saver! Now some Ques.

Pascal Oudet

>I just received "woodturning techniques" by M Darlow yesterday, and have seen there is a chapter about coring systems, with some pictures explaining the Kelton. but I haven't read it yet in details. there is also a good piece of info on Bill Grumbine site (especially about the lathe speed).

Pascal

Re: Got my KM Center Saver! Now some Ques.

Fog Tanner

>The instructions are indeed "lacking". I got my start by readin the Steve Russell article. Steve is also a member of the woodtunring club I belong to so I was able to talk to him at meetings. I have have the McNaugton system for about two yars and use it on all my bowls.

I had bought Mike's first video stricly for the section on the McNaugton system. When I call him to get the DVD with both him and Staurt turning bowls, he told me he would be having a DVD on the McNaughton system. As soon as it came out I ot it. It's a great DVD and gave me an alternate way of using it. I go from the outside in, Mike normally goes from the inside out. On the DVD he does both and you get to make the choice.

Mike also gets into reshaping the blade of the "older square" tips to the pointed shape he uses. I still like the squared end, but all the new blades are pointed. Since you have the Jet lathe you will want to read the Russell artciles.Steve gets into using the McNaughton system on something less than a Vic, VB, or Oneway. Mine is now used on a Vic, but I started on a Delta comporabel to your Jet. You just have to go slower.

There is one point that Mike missed on the DVD, probably because he's used it so much. When you are coring the bowl, you have to apply pressure during the first part of the cut. You will get to a point where you "round the curve" and you start getting into more headon endgrainand you get more dust than powder. At this point the tool is almost sucked in and you have to hold back to keep from feeding to fast. At least that's they way it works on Mesquite and some other mystery wood I've done.

But, if you get Mike's DVD it will take the fear out of going through the bottom. He does a good job of showing you how to line the blade up and visualize where it is going.

Its a great tool and you will like it, like anything else it just has a learning curve.

Good luck,

Fog

Site URL?

Dominic Greco in Richboro PA

>Thanks for the input!

You wrote:

"Haven't seen the DVD but Steve Russel has some pictures on his CD and web site.

Do you happen to have the URL of Steven Russel's web site?

See ya around,

Dominic

Re: My best piece of advice.

Al Crandall

>I found the Kelton System was a lot easier to use if I used candle wax to lubricate any steel surface which would rub against another. Coring is nearly effortless after lubrication. Do it about every other core.

Thanks everyone!

Dominic Greco in Richboro PA

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Re: Got my KM Center Saver! Now some Ques.

Scott Greaves in Blackfoot ID

>Hi Dominic!

Congratulations! You are going to love the coring system!

I didn't know Mike Mahoney had come out with that video yet. Since he has, I strongly suggest you invest in it! Mike is a master of that coring system, and produces work with it that takes your breath away! His nested sets are truly something to see! From the times I have seen him at the Utah Symposium, I think he's a pretty good teacher as well.

Take care!

Scott.

Re: Site URL?Steve Russell

Darryl Hansen

>Dominc, I can't find his web site url right off hand but his email is

benzer@flash.net

I believe Steve Russell also had a blurb on the McK web site. Just be sure to spell center saver correctly that is with the British accent..centre

Darryl