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Help!! Oval Turnings (Long)

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Help!! Oval Turnings (Long)

Tim Grenville-Cleave

>Help/Advice needed,

Everything I turn seems to end up Oval. Wet or Seasoned, Bowl or pen. Shaft has 0.0001 runout at the register, bearings are good. In fact headstock has just been stripped and rebuilt for drive ratio upgrade. It was tested on a lathe bed at the works and passed. I fit it onto mine and Hmmmm nice ovals again :( I have carried out the 'Kiss Test' no probs there. I can turn ovals between centres, on a screw chuck and using assorted internal and external dovetail and non-dovetail jaws on the Axminster Precision chuck. I can even drill off centre holes in all sorts of wonderful things.

If I could get a better finish on all this wood I could make a fortune selling oval and off centre stuff, but it would be nice to make a bowl that was 'square' so to speak every so often. Also all this wasted wood is no good to me I don't have solid fuel heating. Any Ideas ... Please.

Tim

ps Oh try and keep your answers simple I am not a natural engineer.

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John Lucas

>Tim

How oval is it. Wood will never be truly round but should be pretty close when first turned. Wood movement will cause it to go out of round as well as the tool bouncing off summer and winter wood.

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Tim Grenville-Cleave

>John,

1/4" in an 8" seasoned bowl, 1/16" pen

Tim

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Doug Leite

>When you re-installed the spindle,

1)were the bearings tight on the shaft

2)were the bearings tight into their respective bores in the housing?

3) if the headstock bolts to the bed, are the bolts tight?

What make/model is your lathe?

Aloha,

Doug

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#5

Richard Allen

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Richard Allen

>1/4" on an 8" seasoned wood bowl seams like a lot. 1/16" on a pen seams HUGE to me.

I would sugest that you ask a fellow woodturner to visit and turn a bowl.

Lacking a fellow woodturer visiting you then perhaps you could visit them and turn a bowl on their lathe.

Wood, Lathe, Technique, Sharpness of tools or Selection of tools). One or a combination of the five. I guess I should count out a sixth posiblity. Someone or some greater power is playing a crule crule joke on you.

I remember a movie which took place in the 60s. The neighbor was always bragging about what great gas mileage he was getting with his VW Bug. The main character took to adding gas to the tank of the VW owner and natural the VW owner became more of a bragger that his car was getting 60 miles to the gallon. After a while the main character started siphoning gas out of the VW. The neighbor couldn't understand why his car was now getting 6 miles to the gallon. He had the car checked over by the dealer and such. The main character would ask him how his little car was doing. The WV owner would just grumble. Naturally this wasn't the main theme of the movie. ANd I don't know who or what might be making your turnings oval. Mostly it was just an excuse for me to tell that story as I always smile when I think of that part of that movie.

Good Luck

Richard

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#6

Is the headstock in line with the bed?

Phil Joines, Krum, Tx

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Brad Homman

>I think that movie is "Pete and Tillie" staring Walter Matthau and Carole Burnett. A great movie. I don't know what is making those turnings oval either, but if you can't get your lathe working this weekend you know a good movie to rent. Best of luck!

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#8

Quick check

Fred in NC

>If you have a dowel, say 1" or more in diameter, and you know it is round, chuck it up, set the lathe at the lowest speed, and your tool rest about 1/4" from the dowel.

Now take a pencil (carpenter's preferred) and move it along the tool rest. It should make a spiral around the dowel.

Stop the lathe, and turn it around by hand, and look at the pencil mark. It should go completely around the dowel. Especially check the ends. See if the effect is more pronounced near the tailstock.

I suspect something is off center.

By the way, what kind of lathe is it?

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Tim Grenville-Cleave

>Sorry about the delay folks, family got in the way of turning more oval thingamedodas and reading posts.

The Lathe is a Hegner HDB 200 XL with Motor upgrade and all bells and whistles

The headstock was reassembled by Hegner UK (so I assume correctly)

Headstock fitted to main body by me, It swivels so there is only one shaft with locking cam to assemble.

Nothing loose, lathe and stand secure and non-moving.

Fred, I have carried out Kiss test but will do the Dowel test tomorrow. Results to follow.

I am also arranging a local turner with a Hegner to come and try this lump of German engineering with me.

Thanks all for your input,

Tim

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