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P & N Spindle Gouge

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P & N Spindle Gouge

Scott Greaves, Blackfoot Idaho

>Hi Everybody!

I was visiting my local Woodcraft store (only four hours away) last week, and noticed they are now selling the P & N line of tools. I have wanted one of their roughing gouges, but the price was a bit steep for a casual purchase. But the little spindle gouge was in the right range, and looked very interesting, so I bought it.

I had today off, so I took it to the shop and mounted a handle on it. I sharpened it up, leaving the same profile it came with, and gave it a try on some pen blanks. It seemed to work nicely.

The tip profile was quite pointy compared with how I usually grind my spindle gouges. I didn't try any beads or coves with it, since that's not the design I wanted on these pens. But just taking the wood down to size and for initial shaping, this gouge worked well.

After I have used it some more I'll check back in with a better review. Does anybody have a better (cheaper) source for these tools?

Scott.

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Lyn J. Mangiameli

>I don't know what the Woodcraft prices are, but you might want to compare them to the prices Lee Valley and Rich Johnson

(http://home.pacbell.net/latheart/)

have for them. For those outside North America, you might want to check out the prices that Carroll's Woodworking Supplies has (http://au.store.yahoo.com/cws-store/woodtool.html) and for anyone interested in a steel handle that matches the 12mm tang found on many of the P&N tools, they carry the Vermec which is an excellent lead shot filled handle for that size tang.

If you haven't seen it already, I wrote a review of quite a few of the P&N tools that can be obtained here:

http://www.fholder.com/Woodturning/lyn.html

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Scott Greaves, Blackfoot Idaho

>Thanks Lyn! Somehow I had missed that article when it had come out. The prices on Rich's page seem lower, but I'd need to check with him to make sure. Now, where do I find one of those handles? ;-)

Scott.

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Keith Tompkins

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Keith Tompkins

>The woodturning center where I teach bought seven complete sets of PandN tools. The set contains a 1/2 inch spindle gouge. It has a lot of mass beneath the cutting edge, making it perfect for grinding in the wolverine jig, just as you would grind an Ellsworth grind.

The long edge that is produced by this grind acts like a skew when rounding a cylinder, such as a pen. When laid on its side, it will cut straight into end grain, producing a square corner. It is also great for beads and coves. A very versitile tool. Which size did you purchase?

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Joe Fleming

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Joe Fleming

>P&N makes detail gouges that are not spindle gouges. What you all are describing sounds like their detail gouges.

Properly designed spindle gouges are ground such that the bottom of the flute is exactly on the center of the bar stock. This allows the gouge to be used for drilling, like a spoon bit for an old auger drill.

Detail gouges are ground with the flute center above the axis of the bar which means that there is a lot of steel under the center of the cutting edge. When I've seen detail gouges used, they are typically ground with a smaller angle (~30 degrees) than a traditional spindle gouge (~40 degrees).

Joe Fleming - San Diego

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Scott Greaves in Blackfoot ID

>Hi Keith,

I got the 12mm one. I like the idea of grinding the long sides on the spindle gouges - that's how I have my other spindle gouges done. I think this is going to be a nice one! Although it's kind of funny, I just switched from a gouge to a skew for turning most of my pens about eight months ago. Figured I needed the skew practice! ;-)

I sure would like to visit (and attend) that school where you teach! But I don't get "back East" very often!

Scott.

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Scott Greaves in Blackfoot ID

>Hi Joe,

What I got was the spindle gouge. I was checking out those detail gouges as well, and I like the shallower flute on them - I may have to try one sometime!

Scott.

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