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First "Big" bowl from New Lathe

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First "Big" bowl from New Lathe

Mark Kauder, Phenix City, AL

>This is the first big bowl that I have finished on my new Vega 2400. TD gave me this blank when he and his son were down for a demo at my club in March. I roughed it out a few weeks later on our club Jet 1642. It was pretty rotten, like turning styrofoam and very wet.

I left it in my hot shop all summer, hoping that someday I would have a lathe big enough to turn it on someday.

I pulled it out two weeks ago, and turned it round again - it had distorted quite a bit, but the the drying process had not helped the turnability. However, the color and figure was starting to look really interesting.

To counteract the poor quality of the wood, I saturated it with thinned down lacquer. Waited a week. It was some better, but not really good, especially with the end grain. So, now I saturated it with thin CA glue - about 8oz worth!

Still lots of endgrain tearout, but it sanded out alright.

The bowl is 14.5" in diameter, 3.5" deep, 4" high, with a 3.5" foot. The walls are 1/4 at the rim, tapering to 5/8" at the foot. The grove around the rim was an attempt to put three small beads there, but the endgrain chipped too badly. So I had to convert it into a groove and it looks OK. If I had more time, I might have filled the grove with an epoxy inlace, but it is a birthday present for my mother, and I have to get it sent in the next day or so.

I felt that one of my high gloss would not be appropriate for a bowl that would probably actually see use as a fruit bowl or the like. So, I wiped on some thin Lacquer a couple of times, and then buffed it with 4x steelwool and applied wax.

The neat thing about this wood, is that it has some slight spalting is spots, it has the typical Box Elder Reds, it has some quilting near the pith, and some birdseye opposite the pith.

As always, Critiques Welcome.

Mark


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Mark Kauder, Phenix City, AL

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polyall 2000 *LINK*

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>polyall 2000 works really well in firming up spalted and punking wood that is almost beyond turning.

i finish turn to about 2-3 more passes remaining(depending upon the amount of tearout). then apply the polyall --- it has the consistency of water,penetrates immediately and cures within a few minutes.

then finish with the few remaining cuts.

polyall finishes well, and other than the odor (which dimenishes in a few days), it can be a real wood saver.


polyall 2000

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What's Your Secret?

Mark Mandell - Gone Round In Jersey

>For getting the P-2000 to penetrate? Got a qt. kit, mixed some, put it on a section of walnet that was punky and soft. Turned off the surface quite nicely, but did not penetrate. Keep turning and any benefit was lost.

Mark

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Mike Schwing from Md.

>Nice clean line on the exterior profile. Very tough to get right, especially on a larger, shallow piece like this. The wood is beautiful, too, as well as the finish. I have two points for consideration, though. The rim treatment doesn't work, for me, I think I'd have preferred an interrupted profile. The bottom looks nice, but to continue the curve a tiny bit longer/further inward would have more appeal.

Just two nitpicks, don't put too much emphasis on them. They wouldn't have been worth adding if you hadn't asked for critiques. Nice work.

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Jim Shaver Oakville, Ont

>Hi Mark,

Now that was patience, great post and wonderful result!

Take care,

Jim

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Mark Kauder, Phenix City, AL

>Thank for the tip e.

Mark

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Mark Kauder, Phenix City, AL

>Mike, I whole heartedly agree with your critique. As soon as I started the rim treatment (origially beads or grooves), I knew it was wrong, but I was committed at that point. Since 90% of my work is non-utilitarian, I would have made the base smaller, though this one meets the 30% of diameter rule, except that I knew that this one was going to my mother. I know her, and this will be a fruit bowl on her kitchen counter, or a nut bowl on the living room coffee table, so I went with the more stable base.

I appreciate you comments.

Thanks

Mark

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Geez! You ain't kidding!

Dominic Greco in Richboro PA

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Mark,

Cool looking bowl! I'm sure your Mom will love it.

Isn't Box Elder a wood full of surprises? Besides the color, sometimes you get bird's eye figure as well.

BTW, nice save on this one. I would have given up (or thrown it at a wall in frustration)!

See ya around,

Dominic

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George Van

>Mike, what do you mean by an interrupted profile?

Thanks, George

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Scott Thorburn

>Mark, When using Polyall I find that I get the most penetration by continually wetting the wood until no more will soak in. You have to work fast.

I usually find that once I get to almost the final cuts this is the time to apply the polyall to stiffen the wood to get clean final cuts.

By the way your stuff is wonderful to view.

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Mark Mandell - Gone Round In Jersey

>Comments are always appreciated. Understand the "work fast" as the stuff does set up aggressively. I was hoping for a real substitute for thin CA, but, so far, it's not comparable on the penetration.

Mark

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Mark Kauder, Phenix City, AL

>I think he meant an UNinterupted profile.

Mark

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John F

>just a suggestion, have you ever seen those vacuum seal shlock things advertised on tv?

there was one I saw that could be attached to a mason jar...thinking put stock in jar, apply a vacuum and when all is well, release vacuum, seems to me that would suck the polyall deep into the wood, just a thought...

John F.

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George Van

>Thanks Mark, makes sense to me.

I have a blank I am going to try your thinned lacquer treatment on, hope it works for me also.

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