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Met a local Luther *LINK*

Mark Kauder, Phenix City, AL

>One of the members of our turning club mentioned to me today that he knew of a Luther in town that also used Lacquer on his guitars, banjos, etc. He is only about a mile from me, in a back street.

I went over at lunch time and met him. Small shop, Skinny Old Guy with long gray/white hair and beard. In the front his wife has a stained glass business, and the back 2/3s is his office and shop. A real mess, stuff everywhere. A Grizzly cabinet saw, an old Delta 14" BS and a Craftsman 10" BS like mine, a Grizzly DC like mine, a Rigid Drill Press, a cheap OSS like mine, a Proformax 16/32 sander that he say he might sell (!!!!) says it take too long to thin wood with it, but he like using it for bone inlays. Now he has a huge drum sander - about 36" capacity he uses on guitar bodies. All sorts of guitar forms lying around, scrap wood and guitars in various stages of construction lying around.

Best part about the trip - the Lacquer that he uses. He uses a Gloss Guitar Rubbing Lacquer from The Lawrence-McFadden Co. in Philadelphia.

He was jitter bug sanding a guitar that he had sprayed the night before (he uses HPLV) with 320 grit to do the first leveling, and the stuff was absolutely dry. White power dry. Says he used to use another name brand (the name is escaping me right now), and he says that even though he has to have this stuff shipped and pay the hazardous materials charges, he would use this stuff if they gave him the other stuff free. Says that he does not use the vinyl sealer under it. He sands to 200 grit and then buffs with a grinder type buffer using a rouge.

If you look at the Mcfadden customer list under musical instruments, it is kind of a Who's Who of Guitar makers.

At the suggestion of Sam Simpson, I have recently started using Behlen's Stinged Instrument Lacquer. I love it. It builds quickly, and dries relativly quickly (compaired to Deft). But at the two places that I can buy it buy the gallon, it is $33 a gallon. The Mcfaddens is $24 a gallon. I use about a quart per bowl (give or take depending on the wood).

Anybody have any knowledge of the product??

Thanks

Mark


http://www.lawrence-mcfadden.com/LM_guitars.htm

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Sorry - Luthier

Mark Kauder, Phenix City, AL

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Ron in Drums PA

>Your second to last sentence got my attention.

One quart of finish per bowl? Wow!

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Mark Kauder, Phenix City, AL

>That is just a guess, and it really depends on the bowl. A closed grain wood bowl like Maple, will take a lot less to fill the grain. Walnut on the other hand, you apply 3-5 coats, and then end up sanding most of it off and applying it again, all to fill the grain.

Mark

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John Lucas

>Mark

Your thinking like me. I met a lady who does pearl and abalone inlay for a Luthier. I've been considering that as an option for my mirrors and other things. Of course learning finishing from them would be good also. Turns out it is the same luthier who fixed my Ovation guitar years ago. He moved and I lost track of the guy.

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Russ

>And then you need to visit a violin maker and learn about shellac and spirit varnishes, and their secret recipes for what they call a "300 year finish".

Your wife will not let you in the house again when you start boiling mixtures of alcohol, shellac, lavender oils, and various gums, pitches, and resins.

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Oh... but

Brian Roberts

>cooking varnish smells sooo good (my opinion).

It can get a little tricky though (can you say exothermic reaction?).

Brian

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Barry Turner

>Could we possibly be talking about a LUTHIER???

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John Lucas

>Wasn't that supermans arch enemy.

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Mark Kauder. Phenix City, AL

>Barry,

I think if you will look at the second posting, I corrected the spelling and appologized for the misspelling.

Mark

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