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Hollow Forms - a different world of turning!

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Hollow Forms - a different world of turning!

David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>A buddy of mine from Ellijay lent me his Al Bashan hollowing tool, and I've been putting it to a little bit of use. I've only turned two peices with the new tool, but several things have happened: I now can appreciate Mike's Gaggle of Pots, a heck of a lot more than I could before this past week (nice stuff Mike!), but I also realize now, that hollow forms have very little in common with bowls - my stance, my tools, my techniques, the shapes and curves I'm used too - nothing is the same! I'm also very intruiged by the endless possibilities that seem to be here with hollow forms; I thought the results were never-ending in the realm of bowls, but this is too cool.

The tool I'm using is made by Al Bashan, a retired machinest, who I believe resides in South Carolina. It's nothing fancy, but I've been surprised at it's performance. It's half inch round stock - the tool is about 18" inches long, with a 1 1/2" peice of the same round stock on the end of the tool, that adjusts to cut under a rim with a normal Allen screw - and the cutter is simply a HSS steel scraper type (three different shapes) that is fixed onto the 1 1/2" peice of round stock, with another Allen screw that also swivels.

The "secret" is the tool's outrigger - another peice of half inche round stock that intersects the main bar, welded together. This leaves you with about a ten inches of usable tool depth. The outrigger forms an L shape to the left of the tool - both peices of steel are placed on the tool rest, and thus the torsional forces are eliminated, you simply have a nice solid, long handle that you tuck under your arm (not your chin!) to control the vertical forces - this seems to be a nice compromise between the captured rigs, and the total hand helds. But, I speak from limited observation only, not actual experience.

So, here are my first two attempts, both in Bradford Pear, turned and finished green. The taller form is about 5" by 4", and the smaller, about 4" by 4". The taller peices is darker becuase I submerged it in a bath of oil, a few hours after turning, for several days. The smaller peice soaked for about a day in the oil, a day after I finished it. I sanded through 2500 dry, and after the soaking, I waxed them both. Interesting results, and I think I can say I'm hooked: on Bradfor Pear for one thing, but hollow turning as well.

Thanks for looking,

David Hammond

My Dad & Me, Inc.


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JamieDonaldson

>I have some trouble visualizing the tool from your description- can you post photo? Hollowing is addictive, and a whole new ball game!So now you need more new tools- check out John Jordan's- they work like a champ, both in a Stewart handle and a Jamieson captured boring bar "D" handle.

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David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>Hey Jamie - please excuse the crude Paint drawing, but I already closed up shop tonight. If I get a chance I'll get a real pic in a few days.

The pic and description should be self explanatory: the two blue arrows indicate the two allen screws, which are the two pivot points for the cutting edge of the tool - this is what allows you to adjust the tool to something of a swan neck type shape, and cut under a rim. Hopefully this is clearer than mud, if not, a real pic in a few days should help.

Thanks,

David


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Keith Tompkins

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Keith Tompkins

>Hi David, nice forms, especially for your first attempts. I agree, the bradford pear turns wonderfully!

I missed an opportunity recently....one day I saw a big one all cut in sections. The next day when I went back, it was mulch. bummer.

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Comments on the tool

Lyn J. Mangiameli

>Here are my comments on that tool, together with a link to photos and a discussion of its use, as they will appear in the next part of the hollowing tool survey in More Woodturning.

Johnston/Basham Hollow Turning Tool [questionable availability, contact Bill Johnston) This tool would have been listed in the full size, free hand hollowing tools section, but for its permanently attached outrigger. The tool has a 5/8 inch diameter, 11 inch long main shaft to which is welded a longer outrigger bar of the same diameter. A tool rest of at least 12 inches is required to provide support to the outrigger. The cutting tip is a broad, flat, rounded-nose scraper; the handle appears to my eyes to be a modified Glaser. I have heard good things about this tool from a couple of turners who own one, though I must admit that outrigger designs seem to me to be less sophisticated than the other forms of torsional restraint, and more hassle than a normal free hand tool. I will not say much more as Bill Johnston has a good description of his tool, and gives use instructions at this site: http://www.kestrelcreek.com/Articles/Hollowing_Tool.htm

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Mark Kauder. Phenix City, AL

>Nice work David.

If you are interested, contact me, I have a 5/8" Basham tool that I bought last fall, but am no longer using. I am using a Don Pencil tool now.

I will make you a deal on it.

Mark

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Re: Hollow Forms - a different world of turning! *LINK*

John U - Charlotte, NC

>Al Basham's tools are available at the following link. Select Marketplace, then select prodcut category to find his listing.


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David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>Thanks Keith - it is always a bummer to miss wood!

David

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Re: Comments on the tool

David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>Thanks for the comments as usual Lyn, they're always helpfull. I was very skeptical of this tool before I tried it, but like I said, I've been very pleased. The outrigger does seems rather barbaric in a way, but it serves its purpose very well, and seems to stay well out of the way.

David

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Re: Thanks for the link John

David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

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Re: Hey Mark:

David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>I am interested in the tool - and I pinged you offline. Let me know something when you get a chance.

Thanks,

David

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Re: Hey Mark:

Mark Kauder, Phenix City, AL

>Look for an emil from me this morning.

Mark

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