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Position at the lathe (PICs)

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Position at the lathe (PICs)

Mike Schwing from Md.

>Someone asked me over an email today about my position at the lathe, since they too are short. I thought the pictures might be interesting here as well.

I'm 5'5" tall and I find my height to actually be an advantage with my PM 3520. My style of turning is perfect for the spindle height of my lathe. It is more easily described with pictures.

After blowing up a hollow form earlier this evening I thought I might turn something flat, so these pictures only depict my position turning at the end of the lathe. The 3520 has a sliding headstock, one of my favorite features.

Please note that in these shots the lathe is turned off and I am not wearing my faceshield. I would be otherwise.

Pic 1. - how I hold my tool. I use the Ellsworth gouge in a large Kelton handle 95% of the time I spend turning. The mass of the Kelton handle is a superb addition to the great Ellsworth grind/superflute. It literally transforms the great Ellsworth gouge into a SUPERGOUGE! The tool handle is held firmly in my right armpit, which has about 4" of vertical travel, and I make good use of. The tool is held almost horizontally for most of the bowl work, but I find that a different position shown in a pic later on down produces less tear out on burl and other grains for exterior and flat work.


Pic 2. Standing outboard at the lathe, back straight, knees just barely broken, tool with horizontal approach, and my left hand is gripping the tool AND the toolrest by hooking the index finger under and around the toolrest. Extremely good control but not so easy if the tool needs to extend very far in one pass.


Pic 3. Same thing, different angle.


Pic 4. Same basic approach but my fingers are all outside of the toolrest. Easier to make a longer pass and to extend the tool as you move along the rest. Plenty of control.


Pic 5. The other major tool position I employ. I believe this is referred to as "Terry Daniels style" based on posts I've read from others. In this position the tool handle is held very low, with the toolrest also very low, and the side bevel rubs the worksurface, so that the cutting edge effectively "slices" the wood off and produces a remarkable finish, little or no tear out, and if desired, it can be used to hog off a tremendous amount of wood in one pass.


Hope someone found this helpful. Short little old me finally found something he's the perfect height for.

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David Hammond, in Powder Springs GA

>Thanks for the post and pics Mike - it's always interesting to see how someone else is turning, especially someone who is turning such nice stuff.

I couldn't manage without being able to turn as you turn outboard on you Powermatic - my main stance is your secondary one, like Terry. The difference is I stand opposite as you do. I already closed up shop or I'd take a picture to explain, but in words: I stand facing the headstock dead on, with gouge handle low in my left hand, tucked into my hip, and my right hand guiding the gouge. I use this position to shape the outside of most peices. When I move to hollowing out a bowl, or anything else, I swap the gouge back to the "traditional" stance - handle in my right hand, held a little higher, left hand guiding the gouge.

David

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Phil Lieberman

>Wow is that nice piece on the lathe, you could always stand on somthing to make yourself taller!

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Mike Rubes, Apex, NC

>Hi Mike,

Great pics, thanks for the explanations. Nice looking piece on the lathe. Post a pic of that one when it is done. It looks pretty large!

Thanks,

Mike

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RonZ

>It sure seems like you got the Schwing of things. =o)

I'm also 5'5" and when using my VL300 as is I developed tennis/golf/woodturner's elbow. I had to build myself a soap box to stand on.

How far is the center from the ground?

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Mark Kauder, Phenix City, AL

>Mike,

Like you, I like having the lathe high - especially for hollowing. I had my old mini up nearly that high, but my new Vega is much lower. Still trying to figure out what to do about that.

A agree that the piece you have on the lathe looks great. CUT IT OUT - YOU ARE KILLING ME WITH ALL THIS GREAT WORK YOU ARE DOING!!

Just Kidding - keep up the good work.

Mark

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Brad Vietje

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Brad Vietje

>Mike,

Thanks for the great photos. I do a lot of finish turning with the gouge held in a shear cut position as you show in pic #5.

Very nice piece on the lathe, too !

I'm particularly impressed with your committment to the sport -- turning in your PJ's really shows you have your priorities worked out !

Safe Spinning,

Brad Vietje

Thetford, VT

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Hey Mike, I'm taller than you

Ron in Drums PA

>I'm 5'5-1/2".

Thanks for the Pics. I like your approach on the wat you handle your tools.

FWIW - On my lowly 1236, lt looks like the spindle on my head stock might be the same height as on your lathe . I've never tucked a tool under my arm yet. I have my tool rest lower and the back of my tool pointing downwards. I hold my tip slightly above center.

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adrien

>"Pic 2. Standing outboard at the lathe" Which way is that lathe turning????

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Dick Hines

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Dick Hines

>Some people need soap boxs and I had to sit my Pm on 4x4'x and extend the leveling legs most of the way out so I did not have to bend over while turning. My spendle is 50 " off the floor

Of course I am a little more than 5'5".

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counter clockwise

Mike Schwing from Md.

>Were it turning the other way it'd lift the tool off of the rest and carry it to the other side!